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Attributes | |
ACN | 639075 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ont.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc tracon : sct.tracon tower : ont.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | arrival star : ziggy three |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1000 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 639075 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4300 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 638902 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical incursion : landing without clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : landed in emergency condition none taken : unable |
Consequence | other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
On descent through FL180 on the ziggy 3 arrival, with ZLA, we switched frequencys and tried to 'check in' on the new frequency numerous times unsuccessfully and returned to our previous frequency. We were cleared to cross dawna intersection at 12000 ft (as published) and given a new frequency to try for ZLA. Again, we tried numerous times to establish contact on the new frequency, to no avail. Prior to and after dawna, we could not confirm if we were transmitting or receiving. We tried all mikes on all communication radios. We attempted to raise anyone on ZLA, ont tower, and socal's charted frequency. We monitored all communication and navigation radios, specifically the ILS frequency to runway 26L and pdz VOR (112.2). We sent a message to the company via ACARS to the effect that 'we had lost all communications with ATC.' we checked that all circuit breakers were 'in.' we made our crossing restr at dawna as cleared. We were troubleshooting the problem and were attempting everything to re-establish communications before descending for the approach. We slowed the aircraft down to gain more time. At the point where we determined there was no way to re-establish communications, we were crossing petis and were still at approximately 10000 ft (4200 ft is normal crossing altitude). Because of several factors, we opted to make a right 360 degree turn to lose altitude, run checklists, re-enter the approach in the FMC and get us in a safe position to fly the ILS approach to runway 26L. Among these factors were lax class B airspace beyond ont, mountains to the right and behind us, and fuel was becoming low (landed with 7800 pounds). Fortunately, the WX at the time was VFR and we were able to clear the turn by monitoring for traffic visually. Ont tower had cleared the airspace for our approach, as we were later informed. We received an ACARS message response from the company after capturing the localizer on the approach. All the aforementioned reasons created a busy workload for the flight crew. Items were prioritized and non essential tasks were completed as time permitted. We landed uneventfully and cleared the runway. We stopped and waited for light gun signals before proceeding with our taxi to our ramp for parking.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING DSCNT FROM FL180, A B757-200 CARGO FLT LOSES ALL VHF COM CAPABILITY AND USES ACARS TO LET COMPANY KNOW OF PROB AS FLT DSNDS INTO AND LANDS AT ONT.
Narrative: ON DSCNT THROUGH FL180 ON THE ZIGGY 3 ARR, WITH ZLA, WE SWITCHED FREQS AND TRIED TO 'CHK IN' ON THE NEW FREQ NUMEROUS TIMES UNSUCCESSFULLY AND RETURNED TO OUR PREVIOUS FREQ. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS DAWNA INTXN AT 12000 FT (AS PUBLISHED) AND GIVEN A NEW FREQ TO TRY FOR ZLA. AGAIN, WE TRIED NUMEROUS TIMES TO ESTABLISH CONTACT ON THE NEW FREQ, TO NO AVAIL. PRIOR TO AND AFTER DAWNA, WE COULD NOT CONFIRM IF WE WERE XMITTING OR RECEIVING. WE TRIED ALL MIKES ON ALL COM RADIOS. WE ATTEMPTED TO RAISE ANYONE ON ZLA, ONT TWR, AND SOCAL'S CHARTED FREQ. WE MONITORED ALL COM AND NAV RADIOS, SPECIFICALLY THE ILS FREQ TO RWY 26L AND PDZ VOR (112.2). WE SENT A MESSAGE TO THE COMPANY VIA ACARS TO THE EFFECT THAT 'WE HAD LOST ALL COMS WITH ATC.' WE CHKED THAT ALL CIRCUIT BREAKERS WERE 'IN.' WE MADE OUR XING RESTR AT DAWNA AS CLRED. WE WERE TROUBLESHOOTING THE PROB AND WERE ATTEMPTING EVERYTHING TO RE-ESTABLISH COMS BEFORE DSNDING FOR THE APCH. WE SLOWED THE ACFT DOWN TO GAIN MORE TIME. AT THE POINT WHERE WE DETERMINED THERE WAS NO WAY TO RE-ESTABLISH COMS, WE WERE XING PETIS AND WERE STILL AT APPROX 10000 FT (4200 FT IS NORMAL XING ALT). BECAUSE OF SEVERAL FACTORS, WE OPTED TO MAKE A R 360 DEG TURN TO LOSE ALT, RUN CHKLISTS, RE-ENTER THE APCH IN THE FMC AND GET US IN A SAFE POS TO FLY THE ILS APCH TO RWY 26L. AMONG THESE FACTORS WERE LAX CLASS B AIRSPACE BEYOND ONT, MOUNTAINS TO THE R AND BEHIND US, AND FUEL WAS BECOMING LOW (LANDED WITH 7800 LBS). FORTUNATELY, THE WX AT THE TIME WAS VFR AND WE WERE ABLE TO CLR THE TURN BY MONITORING FOR TFC VISUALLY. ONT TWR HAD CLRED THE AIRSPACE FOR OUR APCH, AS WE WERE LATER INFORMED. WE RECEIVED AN ACARS MESSAGE RESPONSE FROM THE COMPANY AFTER CAPTURING THE LOC ON THE APCH. ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED REASONS CREATED A BUSY WORKLOAD FOR THE FLT CREW. ITEMS WERE PRIORITIZED AND NON ESSENTIAL TASKS WERE COMPLETED AS TIME PERMITTED. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY AND CLRED THE RWY. WE STOPPED AND WAITED FOR LIGHT GUN SIGNALS BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH OUR TAXI TO OUR RAMP FOR PARKING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.