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Attributes | |
ACN | 640662 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : cty.vortac |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Super King Air 200 HDC |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 640662 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 640035 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar mode c aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Handover from tpa approach to ZJX passing 10000 ft, jax rogered our handover and cleared us to climb to FL230. Passing 10500 ft got a TCASII TA for traffic at 12000 ft 3 to 4 NM at 1 O'clock position. At 11000 ft got a TCASII RA directing us to adjust vertical speed to zero. I adjusted and saw traffic visually, copilot advised jax of our RA. After clear of conflict, we inquired if jax had any warnings or awareness of conflict traffic. Response was something like, 'you started to flash just as you called me on it' and 'traffic (kind air) is VFR.' I am troubled that without TCASII and VFR conditions this could have been a mishap, and judging by our flight paths probably would have been. Supplemental information from acn 640035: the TCASII reported his altitude plus 1000 ft once we leveled off at 11000 ft and he passed directly over top of us. The jax controller was very busy during this time and was directing other aircraft non-stop and we could not break into the radio until at least 1-2 mins after the event occurred. Once we reported the RA to the controller, his response was that the king air was VFR. I responded that we were IFR. The controller then gave us phone to call and talk about the situation. I did call before I made this report and jax was very helpful and concerned about the incident. They marked the replays and are forwarding this to their quality assurance. They reported that this happened in their sector 14.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING CLBOUT FROM TPA THROUGH 10500 FT, AN A320 CREW RECEIVE A TCASII RA AND TAKE EVASIVE ACTION, THEN SPOT A KING AIR ACFT XING OVER THE TOP.
Narrative: HANDOVER FROM TPA APCH TO ZJX PASSING 10000 FT, JAX ROGERED OUR HANDOVER AND CLRED US TO CLB TO FL230. PASSING 10500 FT GOT A TCASII TA FOR TFC AT 12000 FT 3 TO 4 NM AT 1 O'CLOCK POS. AT 11000 FT GOT A TCASII RA DIRECTING US TO ADJUST VERT SPD TO ZERO. I ADJUSTED AND SAW TFC VISUALLY, COPLT ADVISED JAX OF OUR RA. AFTER CLR OF CONFLICT, WE INQUIRED IF JAX HAD ANY WARNINGS OR AWARENESS OF CONFLICT TFC. RESPONSE WAS SOMETHING LIKE, 'YOU STARTED TO FLASH JUST AS YOU CALLED ME ON IT' AND 'TFC (KIND AIR) IS VFR.' I AM TROUBLED THAT WITHOUT TCASII AND VFR CONDITIONS THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A MISHAP, AND JUDGING BY OUR FLT PATHS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 640035: THE TCASII RPTED HIS ALT PLUS 1000 FT ONCE WE LEVELED OFF AT 11000 FT AND HE PASSED DIRECTLY OVER TOP OF US. THE JAX CTLR WAS VERY BUSY DURING THIS TIME AND WAS DIRECTING OTHER ACFT NON-STOP AND WE COULD NOT BREAK INTO THE RADIO UNTIL AT LEAST 1-2 MINS AFTER THE EVENT OCCURRED. ONCE WE RPTED THE RA TO THE CTLR, HIS RESPONSE WAS THAT THE KING AIR WAS VFR. I RESPONDED THAT WE WERE IFR. THE CTLR THEN GAVE US PHONE TO CALL AND TALK ABOUT THE SIT. I DID CALL BEFORE I MADE THIS RPT AND JAX WAS VERY HELPFUL AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCIDENT. THEY MARKED THE REPLAYS AND ARE FORWARDING THIS TO THEIR QUALITY ASSURANCE. THEY RPTED THAT THIS HAPPENED IN THEIR SECTOR 14.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.