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Attributes | |
ACN | 652161 |
Time | |
Date | 200503 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : hab.vortac |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cbm.tracon |
Make Model Name | M-20 B/C Ranger |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 39 flight time total : 4457 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 652161 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Encountered rime icing at 7000 ft (not forecast). As it was windy (50 KTS) and cloud cover thick above with temperature at 0 degrees C; elected to descend to 5000 ft. Approved by ATC; controller pointed out that aircraft 30 mi to east had encountered icing at 5000 ft and descended to 3000 ft to avoid. Said I would try 5000 ft first. At this point I was also given the frequency for the next controller as he was concerned I might lose him at 5000 ft. While descending all of the ice departed the aircraft; however it started to accumulate rapidly at 5000 ft. Several attempts to reach either controller on two radios went unanswered. I called in the blind (twice) that I was descending to 3000 ft in case they could hear me or have it relayed. I finally reached the next controller while descending through 4100 ft and was then cleared to 3000 ft. For the future; since both pilot and ATC both knew that radio and ice might be a problem at 5000 ft we should have thought ahead to a block clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A MOONEY M20C PLT ENCOUNTERED UNFORECAST ICING IFR AND CHANGED CRUISE ALT WHEN UNABLE TO CONTACT ATC.
Narrative: ENCOUNTERED RIME ICING AT 7000 FT (NOT FORECAST). AS IT WAS WINDY (50 KTS) AND CLOUD COVER THICK ABOVE WITH TEMP AT 0 DEGS C; ELECTED TO DSND TO 5000 FT. APPROVED BY ATC; CTLR POINTED OUT THAT ACFT 30 MI TO E HAD ENCOUNTERED ICING AT 5000 FT AND DSNDED TO 3000 FT TO AVOID. SAID I WOULD TRY 5000 FT FIRST. AT THIS POINT I WAS ALSO GIVEN THE FREQUENCY FOR THE NEXT CTLR AS HE WAS CONCERNED I MIGHT LOSE HIM AT 5000 FT. WHILE DSNDING ALL OF THE ICE DEPARTED THE ACFT; HOWEVER IT STARTED TO ACCUMULATE RAPIDLY AT 5000 FT. SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO REACH EITHER CTLR ON TWO RADIOS WENT UNANSWERED. I CALLED IN THE BLIND (TWICE) THAT I WAS DSNDING TO 3000 FT IN CASE THEY COULD HEAR ME OR HAVE IT RELAYED. I FINALLY REACHED THE NEXT CTLR WHILE DSNDING THROUGH 4100 FT AND WAS THEN CLRED TO 3000 FT. FOR THE FUTURE; SINCE BOTH PLT AND ATC BOTH KNEW THAT RADIO AND ICE MIGHT BE A PROB AT 5000 FT WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT AHEAD TO A BLOCK CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.