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Attributes | |
ACN | 652221 |
Time | |
Date | 200503 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 652221 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 651981 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : provided flight assist flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Departing ZZZ on runway 4L. On climb out to the west; the so noticed that the 3# oil pressure was reading above the upper red radial limit (of 60-62 psi). Although within limits; the #3 oil temperature was also reading approximately 15 degrees higher than #1 and #2 engines. Following cleanup the QRH was referenced and the engine was retarded to place the pressure within limits. Idle power was required to keep the pressure at 55 psi. The engine was left at idle and ATC was notified a return to ZZZ was necessary. Checklists were completed and landing weight was calculated. Approximately 10000 pounds of fuel dump was necessary and ATC was notified of the need to reduce gross weight. A fuel dump was initiated. The dump began at 10000 ft MSL. The dump was terminated at 5000 ft MSL. The pressure remained barely within limits and engine #3 was treated as if it was inoperative but left running. An emergency was declared and we received radar vectors to land on runway 4L. Landing was uneventful and we taxied to the gate. In an extremely busy departure/arrival area ATC was very helpful and managed us with excellent skill. After landing; we were told to call departure on the land line. Poor use of the phrase 'adjust gross weight' did not register with the controller that we were dumping fuel. An aircraft below us may have been affected. I had used the term before in the military when I needed to dump fuel and thought it was common understanding. The controller stated it was not; so in the future I will use the terminology of 'fuel dump' to advise all around what is happening.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B727 NEEDS TO RETURN TO DEP ARPT WITH OIL PRESSURE PROB. NEEDED TO DUMP FUEL TO MAX LNDG WT BUT FAILED TO ENSURE ATC UNDERSTOOD SPECIFICALLY. DUMPED FUEL WITHOUT ATC APPROVAL AND MAY HAVE SPRAYED AN ACFT AT A LOWER ALT.
Narrative: DEPARTING ZZZ ON RWY 4L. ON CLBOUT TO THE W; THE SO NOTICED THAT THE 3# OIL PRESSURE WAS READING ABOVE THE UPPER RED RADIAL LIMIT (OF 60-62 PSI). ALTHOUGH WITHIN LIMITS; THE #3 OIL TEMP WAS ALSO READING APPROX 15 DEGS HIGHER THAN #1 AND #2 ENGS. FOLLOWING CLEANUP THE QRH WAS REFERENCED AND THE ENG WAS RETARDED TO PLACE THE PRESSURE WITHIN LIMITS. IDLE PWR WAS REQUIRED TO KEEP THE PRESSURE AT 55 PSI. THE ENG WAS LEFT AT IDLE AND ATC WAS NOTIFIED A RETURN TO ZZZ WAS NECESSARY. CHECKLISTS WERE COMPLETED AND LNDG WT WAS CALCULATED. APPROX 10000 LBS OF FUEL DUMP WAS NECESSARY AND ATC WAS NOTIFIED OF THE NEED TO REDUCE GROSS WT. A FUEL DUMP WAS INITIATED. THE DUMP BEGAN AT 10000 FT MSL. THE DUMP WAS TERMINATED AT 5000 FT MSL. THE PRESSURE REMAINED BARELY WITHIN LIMITS AND ENG #3 WAS TREATED AS IF IT WAS INOP BUT LEFT RUNNING. AN EMER WAS DECLARED AND WE RECEIVED RADAR VECTORS TO LAND ON RWY 4L. LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL AND WE TAXIED TO THE GATE. IN AN EXTREMELY BUSY DEP/ARR AREA ATC WAS VERY HELPFUL AND MANAGED US WITH EXCELLENT SKILL. AFTER LNDG; WE WERE TOLD TO CALL DEP ON THE LAND LINE. POOR USE OF THE PHRASE 'ADJUST GROSS WEIGHT' DID NOT REGISTER WITH THE CTLR THAT WE WERE DUMPING FUEL. AN ACFT BELOW US MAY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. I HAD USED THE TERM BEFORE IN THE MIL WHEN I NEEDED TO DUMP FUEL AND THOUGHT IT WAS COMMON UNDERSTANDING. THE CTLR STATED IT WAS NOT; SO IN THE FUTURE I WILL USE THE TERMINOLOGY OF 'FUEL DUMP' TO ADVISE ALL AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.