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Attributes | |
ACN | 655514 |
Time | |
Date | 200503 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Falcon 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 11750 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 655514 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed on runway 24 on the teb 5 departure. We were to maintain runway heading until reaching 1500 ft MSL and then turn to a heading of 280 degrees. The departure says to maintain runway heading until reaching 4.5 DME from the teb VOR. Upon contacting ny departure we were told to climb and maintain 6000 ft MSL. The controller did not tell us to turn to 280 degrees. We acknowledged the new altitude; but did not turn to 280 degrees until we reached 4.5 DME from teb VOR. At 4.5 DME we started our turn and finished the climb to 6000 ft MSL. Upon receipt of the climb clearance we had continued our climb; but had not started to turn to 280 degrees. Both crewmen believed we must maintain runway heading until we had reached the DME limit. The ny departure controller was very upset with us for not turning after receipt of the new altitude limit. He said we were interfering with the localizer at ewr. I still believe we complied with the climb clearance and departure instructions on the teb 5 departure. The rest of the flight was normal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DA50 (FALCON 50) DEPARTING TEB WAS ISSUED A CLB CLRNC ABOVE 1500 FT BEFORE 4.5 DME BUT DID NOT TURN TO HDG 280 DEGS.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED ON RWY 24 ON THE TEB 5 DEP. WE WERE TO MAINTAIN RWY HDG UNTIL REACHING 1500 FT MSL AND THEN TURN TO A HDG OF 280 DEGS. THE DEP SAYS TO MAINTAIN RWY HDG UNTIL REACHING 4.5 DME FROM THE TEB VOR. UPON CONTACTING NY DEP WE WERE TOLD TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 6000 FT MSL. THE CTLR DID NOT TELL US TO TURN TO 280 DEGS. WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE NEW ALT; BUT DID NOT TURN TO 280 DEGS UNTIL WE REACHED 4.5 DME FROM TEB VOR. AT 4.5 DME WE STARTED OUR TURN AND FINISHED THE CLB TO 6000 FT MSL. UPON RECEIPT OF THE CLB CLRNC WE HAD CONTINUED OUR CLB; BUT HAD NOT STARTED TO TURN TO 280 DEGS. BOTH CREWMEN BELIEVED WE MUST MAINTAIN RWY HDG UNTIL WE HAD REACHED THE DME LIMIT. THE NY DEP CTLR WAS VERY UPSET WITH US FOR NOT TURNING AFTER RECEIPT OF THE NEW ALT LIMIT. HE SAID WE WERE INTERFERING WITH THE LOC AT EWR. I STILL BELIEVE WE COMPLIED WITH THE CLB CLRNC AND DEP INSTRUCTIONS ON THE TEB 5 DEP. THE REST OF THE FLT WAS NORMAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.