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Attributes | |
ACN | 655945 |
Time | |
Date | 200504 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach instruction : instructor |
Experience | controller radar : 23 |
ASRS Report | 655945 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach instruction : trainee |
Qualification | controller : developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was training on 3 position combined. Trainee was close to certification throughout TRACON but this was his first hours on this position. Aircraft X came off of runway 9L at phl and was climbed to 12000 ft. Attention was then focused on a difficult situation 40 mi away on the opposite end of our scope. Aircraft X climbed quickly and was turned right on course about 15 mi east of phl. This is on the edge of our boundary with ZDC. They had started an ewr/lga arrival down early to 12000 ft. So they were on the edge of their space and we were on the edge of ours. Aircraft X had a TCASII 'advisory' not an 'RA' on the traffic. Separation wasn't lost but in another min it would have been. I also didn't see the limited data until late because we had my developmental's 'preference set' up on stars. My lessons: check all 'preference sets' before training. Don't train combined early in hours. Don't feel confident because developmental is confident on other sectors. Scan more. Finally issue instructions that can't be affected by climb rate or wind direction. All things I know or should have known. Also; I didn't sleep well last night after a quick turn. I shouldn't be training when I'm not 100%.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PHL CTLR PROVIDING OJT EXPERIENCED NEAR LOSS OF SEPARATION WHEN STUDENT FAILED TO COMPLY WITH BOUNDARY SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS.
Narrative: I WAS TRAINING ON 3 POS COMBINED. TRAINEE WAS CLOSE TO CERTIFICATION THROUGHOUT TRACON BUT THIS WAS HIS FIRST HRS ON THIS POS. ACFT X CAME OFF OF RWY 9L AT PHL AND WAS CLBED TO 12000 FT. ATTN WAS THEN FOCUSED ON A DIFFICULT SITUATION 40 MI AWAY ON THE OPPOSITE END OF OUR SCOPE. ACFT X CLBED QUICKLY AND WAS TURNED R ON COURSE ABOUT 15 MI E OF PHL. THIS IS ON THE EDGE OF OUR BOUNDARY WITH ZDC. THEY HAD STARTED AN EWR/LGA ARR DOWN EARLY TO 12000 FT. SO THEY WERE ON THE EDGE OF THEIR SPACE AND WE WERE ON THE EDGE OF OURS. ACFT X HAD A TCASII 'ADVISORY' NOT AN 'RA' ON THE TFC. SEPARATION WASN'T LOST BUT IN ANOTHER MIN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN. I ALSO DIDN'T SEE THE LIMITED DATA UNTIL LATE BECAUSE WE HAD MY DEVELOPMENTAL'S 'PREFERENCE SET' UP ON STARS. MY LESSONS: CHK ALL 'PREFERENCE SETS' BEFORE TRAINING. DON'T TRAIN COMBINED EARLY IN HRS. DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT BECAUSE DEVELOPMENTAL IS CONFIDENT ON OTHER SECTORS. SCAN MORE. FINALLY ISSUE INSTRUCTIONS THAT CAN'T BE AFFECTED BY CLB RATE OR WIND DIRECTION. ALL THINGS I KNOW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. ALSO; I DIDN'T SLEEP WELL LAST NIGHT AFTER A QUICK TURN. I SHOULDN'T BE TRAINING WHEN I'M NOT 100%.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.