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A pilot on the teb 5 SID; level at 1500 ft as required; misstated 'climbing' and confused the controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 656192 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200505 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Rain |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : teb 5 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 656192 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Departure teb on the teb 5 departure. We were leveling at 1500 ft and turning right to heading 280 degree. When we checked in with departure control we advised 1500 ft for 2000 ft. The SID says to climb on runway heading (240 degrees) to 1500 ft then turn right to heading 280 degrees passing teb 4.5 DME climb to 2000 ft. We believe the controller thought we were climbing to 2000 ft because he advised traffic overhead at 3000 ft for ewr and that the departure says maintain 1500 ft until 4.5 teb DME. We were at our assigned altitude per the SID and believe the problem to be phraseology and misunderstanding on the first radio contact. We believe with proper phraseology these problems will reduce in quantity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PLT ON THE TEB 5 SID; LEVEL AT 1500 FT AS REQUIRED; MISSTATED 'CLBING' AND CONFUSED THE CTLR.
Narrative: DEP TEB ON THE TEB 5 DEP. WE WERE LEVELING AT 1500 FT AND TURNING R TO HDG 280 DEG. WHEN WE CHKED IN WITH DEP CTL WE ADVISED 1500 FT FOR 2000 FT. THE SID SAYS TO CLB ON RWY HDG (240 DEGS) TO 1500 FT THEN TURN R TO HDG 280 DEGS PASSING TEB 4.5 DME CLB TO 2000 FT. WE BELIEVE THE CTLR THOUGHT WE WERE CLBING TO 2000 FT BECAUSE HE ADVISED TFC OVERHEAD AT 3000 FT FOR EWR AND THAT THE DEP SAYS MAINTAIN 1500 FT UNTIL 4.5 TEB DME. WE WERE AT OUR ASSIGNED ALT PER THE SID AND BELIEVE THE PROB TO BE PHRASEOLOGY AND MISUNDERSTANDING ON THE FIRST RADIO CONTACT. WE BELIEVE WITH PROPER PHRASEOLOGY THESE PROBS WILL REDUCE IN QUANTITY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.