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MD80 flight crew witnessed conflict at dfw as landing aircraft passed in front of aircraft taxiing onto the runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 660647 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200506 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 660647 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were just turning onto taxiway eh at the approach end of runway 17R at dfw and switching our radio to tower frequency. I noticed an air carrier Y aircraft just about to touch down on runway 17R; which is unusual. He landed very firmly at about 600-700 ft down the runway. At the same moment I heard 'wow! That was close!' I turned to look to my left and saw a company air carrier Z aircraft that was well beyond the hold short line and about to take the runway at taxiway ef. He had not yet crossed the runway sideline marking. There seemed to be some confusion on the frequency and a question about takeoff. The controller then said 'no! Cancel takeoff clearance.' there was a pregnant silence on the frequency for a bit and then the controller asked air carrier Z if they were ready to copy the phone number; which they did. She then said; 'he even acknowledged cleared to land on the center....' the flts involved were air carrier Y and air carrier Z.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 FLT CREW WITNESSED CONFLICT AT DFW AS LNDG ACFT PASSED IN FRONT OF ACFT TAXIING ONTO THE RWY.
Narrative: WE WERE JUST TURNING ONTO TXWY EH AT THE APCH END OF RWY 17R AT DFW AND SWITCHING OUR RADIO TO TWR FREQ. I NOTICED AN ACR Y ACFT JUST ABOUT TO TOUCH DOWN ON RWY 17R; WHICH IS UNUSUAL. HE LANDED VERY FIRMLY AT ABOUT 600-700 FT DOWN THE RWY. AT THE SAME MOMENT I HEARD 'WOW! THAT WAS CLOSE!' I TURNED TO LOOK TO MY L AND SAW A COMPANY ACR Z ACFT THAT WAS WELL BEYOND THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND ABOUT TO TAKE THE RWY AT TXWY EF. HE HAD NOT YET CROSSED THE RWY SIDELINE MARKING. THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION ON THE FREQ AND A QUESTION ABOUT TKOF. THE CTLR THEN SAID 'NO! CANCEL TKOF CLRNC.' THERE WAS A PREGNANT SILENCE ON THE FREQ FOR A BIT AND THEN THE CTLR ASKED ACR Z IF THEY WERE READY TO COPY THE PHONE NUMBER; WHICH THEY DID. SHE THEN SAID; 'HE EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED CLRED TO LAND ON THE CTR....' THE FLTS INVOLVED WERE ACR Y AND ACR Z.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.