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Attributes | |
ACN | 660682 |
Time | |
Date | 200506 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 660682 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were cleared for departure on runway 1R at sfo. A jetstream had departed on runway 1L previously. Normally we are cleared on the sfo departure with a 030 degree heading. On takeoff with the first officer flying; he was turning to the 350 degree heading of the departure and I told him to stop at 010 degree heading. I informed tower that we were cleared on the gap departure and that would turn us into the jetstream traffic that had departed ahead of us. Tower seemed confused and I explained that the gap departure required a 350 degree heading off runway 1R and that it appeared to me that the jetstream was also on that heading and that did not seem appropriate to me. Tower then told us to come to a 030 degree heading for vectors to sac. We never got closer than 3 mi to the jetstream; but it concerns me that it appears the tower and clearance delivery do not seem to be coordination. Is it just me; or so you see a problem if a crew was flying this in IFR and was not aware of the conflict? I had a good first officer today; and he did as told without questioning and the outcome was ok. I know it was sunday; but please; we all need to be in the loop together!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 DEP FROM SFO RWY 1R EXPERIENCED CONFLICT WITH DEP FROM RWY 1L BECAUSE OF ATC INTRAFAC COORD ERROR.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR DEP ON RWY 1R AT SFO. A JETSTREAM HAD DEPARTED ON RWY 1L PREVIOUSLY. NORMALLY WE ARE CLRED ON THE SFO DEP WITH A 030 DEG HDG. ON TKOF WITH THE FO FLYING; HE WAS TURNING TO THE 350 DEG HDG OF THE DEP AND I TOLD HIM TO STOP AT 010 DEG HDG. I INFORMED TWR THAT WE WERE CLRED ON THE GAP DEP AND THAT WOULD TURN US INTO THE JETSTREAM TFC THAT HAD DEPARTED AHEAD OF US. TWR SEEMED CONFUSED AND I EXPLAINED THAT THE GAP DEP REQUIRED A 350 DEG HDG OFF RWY 1R AND THAT IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THE JETSTREAM WAS ALSO ON THAT HDG AND THAT DID NOT SEEM APPROPRIATE TO ME. TWR THEN TOLD US TO COME TO A 030 DEG HDG FOR VECTORS TO SAC. WE NEVER GOT CLOSER THAN 3 MI TO THE JETSTREAM; BUT IT CONCERNS ME THAT IT APPEARS THE TWR AND CLRNC DELIVERY DO NOT SEEM TO BE COORD. IS IT JUST ME; OR SO YOU SEE A PROB IF A CREW WAS FLYING THIS IN IFR AND WAS NOT AWARE OF THE CONFLICT? I HAD A GOOD FO TODAY; AND HE DID AS TOLD WITHOUT QUESTIONING AND THE OUTCOME WAS OK. I KNOW IT WAS SUNDAY; BUT PLEASE; WE ALL NEED TO BE IN THE LOOP TOGETHER!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.