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Final weight and balance numbers for B767-300 require fine tuning using actual numbers of children on board to achieve acceptable zero fuel weight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 665145 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200507 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sea.airport |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 18000 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 18540 flight time type : 2650 |
| ASRS Report | 665145 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence other |
| Independent Detector | other other : 3 |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Before takeoff we received the following final weight -- zero fuel weight 274071 pounds; takeoff gross weight 317571 pounds; mac 19.1; trim 4.8; passenger 244; crew 3/10. After takeoff; we received a message from load planning that we were overweight and to have the flight attendant do a kids count. We were trying to resolve the weight problem. After questioning the message; we were advised that we were 883 pounds above the zero fuel weight. After sending the kids count; we received a new weight -- zero fuel weight 276783 pounds; takeoff gross weight 320283 pounds; mac 14.4; trim 5.7. The reason given to me for that problem -- ramp added a pallet to the staging post departure. As for that I was not overweight for takeoff; my final weight was within limits.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FINAL WT AND BAL NUMBERS FOR B767-300 REQUIRE FINE TUNING USING ACTUAL NUMBERS OF CHILDREN ON BOARD TO ACHIEVE ACCEPTABLE ZERO FUEL WT.
Narrative: BEFORE TKOF WE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING FINAL WT -- ZERO FUEL WT 274071 LBS; TKOF GROSS WT 317571 LBS; MAC 19.1; TRIM 4.8; PAX 244; CREW 3/10. AFTER TKOF; WE RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM LOAD PLANNING THAT WE WERE OVERWT AND TO HAVE THE FLT ATTENDANT DO A KIDS COUNT. WE WERE TRYING TO RESOLVE THE WT PROB. AFTER QUESTIONING THE MESSAGE; WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE WERE 883 LBS ABOVE THE ZERO FUEL WT. AFTER SENDING THE KIDS COUNT; WE RECEIVED A NEW WT -- ZERO FUEL WT 276783 LBS; TKOF GROSS WT 320283 LBS; MAC 14.4; TRIM 5.7. THE REASON GIVEN TO ME FOR THAT PROB -- RAMP ADDED A PALLET TO THE STAGING POST DEP. AS FOR THAT I WAS NOT OVERWT FOR TKOF; MY FINAL WT WAS WITHIN LIMITS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.