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B737-700 flight crew reports baggage handlers opened forward baggage door to add last min bags after engine start.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 676529 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200510 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : tpa.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : isp.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 676529 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 20 |
| ASRS Report | 676287 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : door warning lights other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
On pushback in tpa; everything was normal including the start sequence; as we had already started #2 engine and were in the middle of starting #1 engine. The first officer mentioned about a ramper pulling close to the aircraft with a bag on the cart. Within seconds; with no communication from the pushback crew; the cargo door light came on for 5 seconds as the ramper threw the bag in there. I completed the start sequence for #1 engine; set the brakes as per the tug driver's command; and queried the driver on the ramp's actions; and emphasized the safety problem of opening cargo doors with the #2 engine running. The response I got from the driver did not convince me that he was fully aware of the danger of this scenario. I think that this point needs to be emphasized to the ramp agents. They need to communicate with us and have us shut down the engine properly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-700 FLT CREW RPTS BAGGAGE HANDLERS OPENED FORWARD BAGGAGE DOOR TO ADD LAST MIN BAGS AFTER ENG START.
Narrative: ON PUSHBACK IN TPA; EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL INCLUDING THE START SEQUENCE; AS WE HAD ALREADY STARTED #2 ENG AND WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF STARTING #1 ENG. THE FO MENTIONED ABOUT A RAMPER PULLING CLOSE TO THE ACFT WITH A BAG ON THE CART. WITHIN SECONDS; WITH NO COM FROM THE PUSHBACK CREW; THE CARGO DOOR LIGHT CAME ON FOR 5 SECONDS AS THE RAMPER THREW THE BAG IN THERE. I COMPLETED THE START SEQUENCE FOR #1 ENG; SET THE BRAKES AS PER THE TUG DRIVER'S COMMAND; AND QUERIED THE DRIVER ON THE RAMP'S ACTIONS; AND EMPHASIZED THE SAFETY PROB OF OPENING CARGO DOORS WITH THE #2 ENG RUNNING. THE RESPONSE I GOT FROM THE DRIVER DID NOT CONVINCE ME THAT HE WAS FULLY AWARE OF THE DANGER OF THIS SCENARIO. I THINK THAT THIS POINT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED TO THE RAMP AGENTS. THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH US AND HAVE US SHUT DOWN THE ENG PROPERLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.