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Attributes | |
ACN | 689709 |
Time | |
Date | 200603 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 689709 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllerb other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATIS advised of runway 31 at lga. The controller advised me to proceed directly to dials. I looked at the runway 31 approach plate and could find no dials fix. I advised the controller of this and he then said that I should look at the expressway visual to runway 31. I was now on the correct plate and trying to catch up. The controller asked if I had the expressway in sight and I told him that I was unfamiliar. He vectored me to the expressway and I then had lga in sight. A visual clearance followed with the question -- did I have shea stadium in sight. First of all; it's night. I am unfamiliar with the nyc area and it's not baseball season; so the stadium is not lit up. Giving this kind of visual approach to a pilot who is unfamiliar with local landmarks; at night; in a fast-moving jet is not good.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ200 FLT CREW IS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE ARR PROCS FOR LGA.
Narrative: ATIS ADVISED OF RWY 31 AT LGA. THE CTLR ADVISED ME TO PROCEED DIRECTLY TO DIALS. I LOOKED AT THE RWY 31 APCH PLATE AND COULD FIND NO DIALS FIX. I ADVISED THE CTLR OF THIS AND HE THEN SAID THAT I SHOULD LOOK AT THE EXPRESSWAY VISUAL TO RWY 31. I WAS NOW ON THE CORRECT PLATE AND TRYING TO CATCH UP. THE CTLR ASKED IF I HAD THE EXPRESSWAY IN SIGHT AND I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS UNFAMILIAR. HE VECTORED ME TO THE EXPRESSWAY AND I THEN HAD LGA IN SIGHT. A VISUAL CLRNC FOLLOWED WITH THE QUESTION -- DID I HAVE SHEA STADIUM IN SIGHT. FIRST OF ALL; IT'S NIGHT. I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH THE NYC AREA AND IT'S NOT BASEBALL SEASON; SO THE STADIUM IS NOT LIT UP. GIVING THIS KIND OF VISUAL APCH TO A PLT WHO IS UNFAMILIAR WITH LCL LANDMARKS; AT NIGHT; IN A FAST-MOVING JET IS NOT GOOD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.