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Sct approach controller states that minor deviations by aircraft on the pom 6 departure result in airspace violations of an adjacent sector. Reporter states this is due to a lowering of the altitudes for lax arrs.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 694730 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200604 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sct.tracon |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : pom6 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller limited radar : 2 controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 14 controller time certified in position1 : 14 flight time total : 140 |
| ASRS Report | 694730 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : sct.tracon |
| Airspace Structure | class b : lax.b class d : ont.d class e : sct.e |
Narrative:
The aircraft missed intercepting the pom 114 degree radial on the pom 6 departure. Although he was only 2 mi off course; he entered another controller's airspace without coordination. I couldn't coordination because I was vectoring him clear; and then there was no point in coordinating because he was clear. They recently lowered the lax profile descent; and now all of the ont departures that don't fly the route exactly perfect conflict with lax arrs. We've complained to our procedures department but they haven't taken action; other than to admonish us not to vector off the departure to avoid this conflict. We've been harassed for turning the departures clear of these conflicts because it interferes with noise abatement.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SCT APCH CTLR STATES THAT MINOR DEVS BY ACFT ON THE POM 6 DEP RESULT IN AIRSPACE VIOLATIONS OF AN ADJACENT SECTOR. RPTR STATES THIS IS DUE TO A LOWERING OF THE ALTS FOR LAX ARRS.
Narrative: THE ACFT MISSED INTERCEPTING THE POM 114 DEG RADIAL ON THE POM 6 DEP. ALTHOUGH HE WAS ONLY 2 MI OFF COURSE; HE ENTERED ANOTHER CTLR'S AIRSPACE WITHOUT COORD. I COULDN'T COORD BECAUSE I WAS VECTORING HIM CLR; AND THEN THERE WAS NO POINT IN COORDINATING BECAUSE HE WAS CLR. THEY RECENTLY LOWERED THE LAX PROFILE DSCNT; AND NOW ALL OF THE ONT DEPS THAT DON'T FLY THE RTE EXACTLY PERFECT CONFLICT WITH LAX ARRS. WE'VE COMPLAINED TO OUR PROCS DEPT BUT THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN ACTION; OTHER THAN TO ADMONISH US NOT TO VECTOR OFF THE DEP TO AVOID THIS CONFLICT. WE'VE BEEN HARASSED FOR TURNING THE DEPS CLR OF THESE CONFLICTS BECAUSE IT INTERFERES WITH NOISE ABATEMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.