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Attributes | |
ACN | 694765 |
Time | |
Date | 200604 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dbn.vortac |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | arrival : holding pattern |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 694765 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 694764 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Approaching honie arrival into atl; we were cleared direct to dbn for the canuk arrival because of WX in the area. Multiple aircraft ahead of us were being told to hold at sinca and dbn with long efc times (1 hour or more). We didn't have the fuel to hold that long. So we were discussing options with our dispatcher for diverts when we were given a holding clearance with an efc that was 1 1/2 hours long. That was not the deviation though; the deviation occurred because we were told to hold as published at dbn. I copied hold at sinca as published so when we got to dbn we continued towards sinca. Center asked us if we were holding at dbn and we said we copied hold at sinca. (We were approximately 5-10 mi past dbn.) he (the controller) then told us to make a right turn back to dbn and hold as published; which we acknowledged and complied with. There seemed to be no conflicts with other aircraft and the controller did not mention our miscom again. Cockpit workload at time of communication of clearance was very high due to WX in the area; captain talking with dispatch; and copilot flying; talking on radio; and loading FMS with new clearance. (New arrival and holding.) supplemental information from acn 694764: I instructed the first officer to take the radios while I contacted dispatch via ACARS to get a better and closer alternate to allow us a longer hold time. While typing; I heard ATC issue our holding clearance. The first officer acknowledged the clearance and I was certain our holding fix was sinca.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 FLT CREW HAS A TRACK HDG DEV DURING HOLDING CLRNC.
Narrative: APCHING HONIE ARR INTO ATL; WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TO DBN FOR THE CANUK ARR BECAUSE OF WX IN THE AREA. MULTIPLE ACFT AHEAD OF US WERE BEING TOLD TO HOLD AT SINCA AND DBN WITH LONG EFC TIMES (1 HR OR MORE). WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUEL TO HOLD THAT LONG. SO WE WERE DISCUSSING OPTIONS WITH OUR DISPATCHER FOR DIVERTS WHEN WE WERE GIVEN A HOLDING CLRNC WITH AN EFC THAT WAS 1 1/2 HRS LONG. THAT WAS NOT THE DEV THOUGH; THE DEV OCCURRED BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD AS PUBLISHED AT DBN. I COPIED HOLD AT SINCA AS PUBLISHED SO WHEN WE GOT TO DBN WE CONTINUED TOWARDS SINCA. CTR ASKED US IF WE WERE HOLDING AT DBN AND WE SAID WE COPIED HOLD AT SINCA. (WE WERE APPROX 5-10 MI PAST DBN.) HE (THE CTLR) THEN TOLD US TO MAKE A R TURN BACK TO DBN AND HOLD AS PUBLISHED; WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND COMPLIED WITH. THERE SEEMED TO BE NO CONFLICTS WITH OTHER ACFT AND THE CTLR DID NOT MENTION OUR MISCOM AGAIN. COCKPIT WORKLOAD AT TIME OF COM OF CLRNC WAS VERY HIGH DUE TO WX IN THE AREA; CAPT TALKING WITH DISPATCH; AND COPLT FLYING; TALKING ON RADIO; AND LOADING FMS WITH NEW CLRNC. (NEW ARR AND HOLDING.) SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 694764: I INSTRUCTED THE FO TO TAKE THE RADIOS WHILE I CONTACTED DISPATCH VIA ACARS TO GET A BETTER AND CLOSER ALTERNATE TO ALLOW US A LONGER HOLD TIME. WHILE TYPING; I HEARD ATC ISSUE OUR HOLDING CLRNC. THE FO ACKNOWLEDGED THE CLRNC AND I WAS CERTAIN OUR HOLDING FIX WAS SINCA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.