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Attributes | |
ACN | 699443 |
Time | |
Date | 200606 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 24 |
ASRS Report | 699443 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | computer equipment : ztl.artcc procedure or policy : ztl.artcc radar equipment : ztl.artcc |
Narrative:
Working R44 shine arrival sector to clt. Clt on south operation. Arrs cross shine intersection at 11000 ft and 250 KTS. CRJ2 was 1 mi from shine descending through 14000 ft at high rate of speed. I questioned the pilot about his crossing restr and he said I never gave it to him. Using uret there is no way to designate who has the crossing restr and who is just descending to an altitude. As with so many things in uret; we are just supposed to 'remember.' human factors studies have shown humans can't remember that much short term information for over 50 yrs. Even the FAA's own studies prove it. It's impossible to remember which airplane you had to descend instead of giving the crossing restr (a crossing restr is a pilot's discretion descent) when you're working 15-20 arrs. With strips; you didn't have to 'just remember.' uret isn't a replacement for strips.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZTL CTLR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING THE USE OF URET EQUIP AND THE INABILITY TO INDICATE NEEDED INFO ON ELECTRONIC STRIPS.
Narrative: WORKING R44 SHINE ARR SECTOR TO CLT. CLT ON S OP. ARRS CROSS SHINE INTXN AT 11000 FT AND 250 KTS. CRJ2 WAS 1 MI FROM SHINE DSNDING THROUGH 14000 FT AT HIGH RATE OF SPD. I QUESTIONED THE PLT ABOUT HIS XING RESTR AND HE SAID I NEVER GAVE IT TO HIM. USING URET THERE IS NO WAY TO DESIGNATE WHO HAS THE XING RESTR AND WHO IS JUST DSNDING TO AN ALT. AS WITH SO MANY THINGS IN URET; WE ARE JUST SUPPOSED TO 'REMEMBER.' HUMAN FACTORS STUDIES HAVE SHOWN HUMANS CAN'T REMEMBER THAT MUCH SHORT TERM INFO FOR OVER 50 YRS. EVEN THE FAA'S OWN STUDIES PROVE IT. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO REMEMBER WHICH AIRPLANE YOU HAD TO DSND INSTEAD OF GIVING THE XING RESTR (A XING RESTR IS A PLT'S DISCRETION DSCNT) WHEN YOU'RE WORKING 15-20 ARRS. WITH STRIPS; YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO 'JUST REMEMBER.' URET ISN'T A REPLACEMENT FOR STRIPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.