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Attributes | |
ACN | 700911 |
Time | |
Date | 200606 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Falcon 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation Excel |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller time certified in position1 : 19 |
ASRS Report | 700911 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport FAA ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
The FA50 departed sna. The C56X departed in trail and was instructed to 'maintain visual separation' from the FA50. The aircraft were initially the same heading; but on different departure sids. The FA50 pilot had set the aircraft for a noise abatement type climb. As a result the C65X passed the FA50 about 8 NM south of the airport. The sna noise abatement is antiquated and potentially dangerous.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SNA CTLR DESCRIBED TCAS EVENT REPORTEDLY INITIATED BY BOTH THE USE OF VISUAL SEPARATION AND NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS.
Narrative: THE FA50 DEPARTED SNA. THE C56X DEPARTED IN TRAIL AND WAS INSTRUCTED TO 'MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION' FROM THE FA50. THE ACFT WERE INITIALLY THE SAME HDG; BUT ON DIFFERENT DEP SIDS. THE FA50 PLT HAD SET THE ACFT FOR A NOISE ABATEMENT TYPE CLB. AS A RESULT THE C65X PASSED THE FA50 ABOUT 8 NM S OF THE ARPT. THE SNA NOISE ABATEMENT IS ANTIQUATED AND POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.