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Attributes | |
ACN | 703116 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : smf.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | other |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 700 flight time type : 170 |
ASRS Report | 703116 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 703117 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On taxi out we had delayed load planning final weights. We got the weights approaching the hold short line and under tower's request to take position and hold; we rushed the final preparation. In the airbus required math of adding the load planning's ZFW (117.2) to the aircraft fuel (15.5) the first officer mis-added and got 122.7 (vice 132.7). The aircraft seemed to handle fine; despite having speeds based on 10000 pounds too light. After about an hour in flight the FMGC had a note to 'check gw' which resulted in us finding and correcting the error. Question/suggestion: why do we have the procedure to add actual fuel to load planning computed ZFW? They should know our fuel as close as the ZFW; and thus be able to compute a sufficiently close TOGW. This would eliminate the errors that occur during rushed math at the hold short line (common with late load planning weights). Supplemental information from acn 703117: entered wrong gross weight into mcdu at takeoff. We did not get final weights until we were at the end of runway. We received takeoff clearance at the same time we got the final weights. I rushed to do the math to calculate the gross weight and complete the takeoff checklist and made a mistake on the math (forgot to carry the 1...public school). I entered a weight that was 10000 pounds lighter than the actual weight. We discovered the mistake in-flight when message came up on mcdu -- check gw. I allowed myself to get rushed trying to finalize the weights; finish the checklist and respond to tower while captain was taxiing onto runway for takeoff. (My mistake not the captain's.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A319 FLT CREW TOOK OFF WITH AIRSPD BUGS SET TO A WT 10000 LBS BELOW ACTUAL WT; WHEN WTS CAME IN VERY LATE IN TAXI.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT WE HAD DELAYED LOAD PLANNING FINAL WTS. WE GOT THE WTS APCHING THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND UNDER TWR'S REQUEST TO TAKE POS AND HOLD; WE RUSHED THE FINAL PREPARATION. IN THE AIRBUS REQUIRED MATH OF ADDING THE LOAD PLANNING'S ZFW (117.2) TO THE ACFT FUEL (15.5) THE FO MIS-ADDED AND GOT 122.7 (VICE 132.7). THE ACFT SEEMED TO HANDLE FINE; DESPITE HAVING SPDS BASED ON 10000 LBS TOO LIGHT. AFTER ABOUT AN HR IN FLT THE FMGC HAD A NOTE TO 'CHK GW' WHICH RESULTED IN US FINDING AND CORRECTING THE ERROR. QUESTION/SUGGESTION: WHY DO WE HAVE THE PROC TO ADD ACTUAL FUEL TO LOAD PLANNING COMPUTED ZFW? THEY SHOULD KNOW OUR FUEL AS CLOSE AS THE ZFW; AND THUS BE ABLE TO COMPUTE A SUFFICIENTLY CLOSE TOGW. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE ERRORS THAT OCCUR DURING RUSHED MATH AT THE HOLD SHORT LINE (COMMON WITH LATE LOAD PLANNING WTS). SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 703117: ENTERED WRONG GROSS WT INTO MCDU AT TKOF. WE DID NOT GET FINAL WTS UNTIL WE WERE AT THE END OF RWY. WE RECEIVED TKOF CLRNC AT THE SAME TIME WE GOT THE FINAL WTS. I RUSHED TO DO THE MATH TO CALCULATE THE GROSS WT AND COMPLETE THE TKOF CHKLIST AND MADE A MISTAKE ON THE MATH (FORGOT TO CARRY THE 1...PUBLIC SCHOOL). I ENTERED A WT THAT WAS 10000 LBS LIGHTER THAN THE ACTUAL WT. WE DISCOVERED THE MISTAKE INFLT WHEN MESSAGE CAME UP ON MCDU -- CHK GW. I ALLOWED MYSELF TO GET RUSHED TRYING TO FINALIZE THE WTS; FINISH THE CHKLIST AND RESPOND TO TWR WHILE CAPT WAS TAXIING ONTO RWY FOR TKOF. (MY MISTAKE NOT THE CAPT'S.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.