Narrative:

I operated flight XXX egss. After reviewing the paperwork; I realized that our aircraft type was not able to abide by the restrs on the runway. Egss had a shortened runway and work was in progress when we were scheduled to arrive. A restr of being able to turn on a 46 meters wide runway was in effect. The NOTAMS for egss stated: 1) aircraft using the reduced distances must be able to turn within the 46 meters width of the runway. 2) our aircraft; a B767; has a limitation that restricts it from making a 180 degree turn on a runway with a width of 150 ft. Based upon this limitation; I thought we were prohibited from operating into egss under their restrs. 3) I contacted dispatch who sent me an ACARS message stating that we were fine. Other crews had done it before us. After getting this message; I was still not convinced; so I got a cell phone from the ramp supervisor and called dispatch myself. Dispatch xferred me to performance data people. They said that they would look into it and were going to call me back. At that time; a company pilot X; who was over in cgn; came up on the flight deck and introduced himself. He said that he had company pilot Y on his cell phone and that he was going to explain to me why we could do this flight. I assumed that he was going to give me some kind of operations waiver that I did not know about. Instead; he just said that other crews had done this since february; and that the airplane 'stopped just fine' on the runway in time to make the taxiway turnoff; so a 180 degree turn was not necessary. He even said that previous crews had been towed off and that was fine. Nevertheless; I told him that the restr was in the paperwork and I thought it was not legal to operate. We went back and forth for 5 or 10 mins; disagreeing about whether it was proper to take this aircraft with these limitations. I stated that I would like for him to have the gateway provide new paperwork without this limitation if it was not valid; or I wanted him to send me a written notice or letter signed by him documenting that he said it was ok. 4) he said that enough time was wasted on this delay by me and that I should just operate the flight to egss; otherwise there would be repercussions for me. I realized there was nothing more to gain from talking to him so I operated the flight knowing that other crews had done the same for at least 4 months. 5) when I woke up after resting the following day; it still bothered me that I had taken the flight. I called the egss airport operations manager on duty and asked him exactly what this limitation meant. He told me that an aircraft that could not turn around on the 46 meters wide runway was not allowed to come in during the reduced runway hours. I asked him about any waivers or variances granted to any operators. He said there was none; the limitation applied to all operators. 6) in conclusion; it still bothers me that we are forced to operate flts in this situation that may constitute a violation. This continues every night and the problem has to be corrected.

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Title: B757 PLT IS CONCERNED WITH LNDG ON A RWY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT EGSS.

Narrative: I OPERATED FLT XXX EGSS. AFTER REVIEWING THE PAPERWORK; I REALIZED THAT OUR ACFT TYPE WAS NOT ABLE TO ABIDE BY THE RESTRS ON THE RWY. EGSS HAD A SHORTENED RWY AND WORK WAS IN PROGRESS WHEN WE WERE SCHEDULED TO ARRIVE. A RESTR OF BEING ABLE TO TURN ON A 46 METERS WIDE RWY WAS IN EFFECT. THE NOTAMS FOR EGSS STATED: 1) ACFT USING THE REDUCED DISTANCES MUST BE ABLE TO TURN WITHIN THE 46 METERS WIDTH OF THE RWY. 2) OUR ACFT; A B767; HAS A LIMITATION THAT RESTRICTS IT FROM MAKING A 180 DEG TURN ON A RWY WITH A WIDTH OF 150 FT. BASED UPON THIS LIMITATION; I THOUGHT WE WERE PROHIBITED FROM OPERATING INTO EGSS UNDER THEIR RESTRS. 3) I CONTACTED DISPATCH WHO SENT ME AN ACARS MESSAGE STATING THAT WE WERE FINE. OTHER CREWS HAD DONE IT BEFORE US. AFTER GETTING THIS MESSAGE; I WAS STILL NOT CONVINCED; SO I GOT A CELL PHONE FROM THE RAMP SUPVR AND CALLED DISPATCH MYSELF. DISPATCH XFERRED ME TO PERFORMANCE DATA PEOPLE. THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD LOOK INTO IT AND WERE GOING TO CALL ME BACK. AT THAT TIME; A COMPANY PLT X; WHO WAS OVER IN CGN; CAME UP ON THE FLT DECK AND INTRODUCED HIMSELF. HE SAID THAT HE HAD COMPANY PLT Y ON HIS CELL PHONE AND THAT HE WAS GOING TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE COULD DO THIS FLT. I ASSUMED THAT HE WAS GOING TO GIVE ME SOME KIND OF OPS WAIVER THAT I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT. INSTEAD; HE JUST SAID THAT OTHER CREWS HAD DONE THIS SINCE FEBRUARY; AND THAT THE AIRPLANE 'STOPPED JUST FINE' ON THE RWY IN TIME TO MAKE THE TXWY TURNOFF; SO A 180 DEG TURN WAS NOT NECESSARY. HE EVEN SAID THAT PREVIOUS CREWS HAD BEEN TOWED OFF AND THAT WAS FINE. NEVERTHELESS; I TOLD HIM THAT THE RESTR WAS IN THE PAPERWORK AND I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT LEGAL TO OPERATE. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH FOR 5 OR 10 MINS; DISAGREEING ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS PROPER TO TAKE THIS ACFT WITH THESE LIMITATIONS. I STATED THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO HAVE THE GATEWAY PROVIDE NEW PAPERWORK WITHOUT THIS LIMITATION IF IT WAS NOT VALID; OR I WANTED HIM TO SEND ME A WRITTEN NOTICE OR LETTER SIGNED BY HIM DOCUMENTING THAT HE SAID IT WAS OK. 4) HE SAID THAT ENOUGH TIME WAS WASTED ON THIS DELAY BY ME AND THAT I SHOULD JUST OPERATE THE FLT TO EGSS; OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE REPERCUSSIONS FOR ME. I REALIZED THERE WAS NOTHING MORE TO GAIN FROM TALKING TO HIM SO I OPERATED THE FLT KNOWING THAT OTHER CREWS HAD DONE THE SAME FOR AT LEAST 4 MONTHS. 5) WHEN I WOKE UP AFTER RESTING THE FOLLOWING DAY; IT STILL BOTHERED ME THAT I HAD TAKEN THE FLT. I CALLED THE EGSS ARPT OPS MGR ON DUTY AND ASKED HIM EXACTLY WHAT THIS LIMITATION MEANT. HE TOLD ME THAT AN ACFT THAT COULD NOT TURN AROUND ON THE 46 METERS WIDE RWY WAS NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN DURING THE REDUCED RWY HRS. I ASKED HIM ABOUT ANY WAIVERS OR VARIANCES GRANTED TO ANY OPERATORS. HE SAID THERE WAS NONE; THE LIMITATION APPLIED TO ALL OPERATORS. 6) IN CONCLUSION; IT STILL BOTHERS ME THAT WE ARE FORCED TO OPERATE FLTS IN THIS SITUATION THAT MAY CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION. THIS CONTINUES EVERY NIGHT AND THE PROB HAS TO BE CORRECTED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.