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Attributes | |
ACN | 704569 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 704569 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 704291 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On takeoff roll; after power set and at approximately 60-70 KTS; prv message illuminated. Throttles were retarded. Prv message no longer annunciated. As I reached forward to deploy reversers; throttles advanced automatically. I should have made sure autothrottles were disconnected. The prv message was annunciated for approximately 1 second; and the throttles were retarded and advanced in approximately 1 second. Now above 80 KTS; our procedures specifically state conditions for aborting; none of which existed. Takeoff and flight to cdg were continued uneventfully. Supplemental information from acn 704291: during takeoff from runway 35L the captain advanced the throttles and called for arm autothrottles; engage N1. Shortly after maximum takeoff power was reached; at approximately 60-70 KTS; we received a master caution; beeper; and 'engine prv EICAS' messages. The captain closed the throttles to discontinue the takeoff. As he moved to deploy the thrust reversers the message went away and the autothrottles; which were still engaged and they had not gone into throttle hold yet; advanced the throttles back to maximum takeoff power. The throttles were back only briefly. At this point we were over 80 KTS; with no abnormal situation indicated; and the takeoff was continued. Supplemental information from acn 704293: on takeoff roll with power set; speed 60-70 KTS; the engine prv EICAS message appeared. The captain; who was flying; retarded the throttles and the message immediately went away. As the captain moved his hand to use the thrust reversers; the autothrottles advanced the power to takeoff power. By the time I realized he was continuing the takeoff; we were over 100 KTS. I did not call for an abort. I felt any action as fb at that point would confuse the situation; so I didn't. All system were normal. The elapsed time of the power reduction was about 1 second. We made an uneventful landing at cdg.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767-300 FLT CREW RECEIVED AN ENG PRV WARNING ON TKOF ROLL. CAPT RETARDED THE THROTTLES TO ABORT; BUT DID NOT DISCONNECT THE AUTOTHROTTLE; AND WHEN THE PRV LIGHT WENT OUT AND THE AUTOTHROTTLE RETURNED THE THRUST LEVERS TO TKOF PWR; THEY CONTINUED THE TKOF.
Narrative: ON TKOF ROLL; AFTER PWR SET AND AT APPROX 60-70 KTS; PRV MESSAGE ILLUMINATED. THROTTLES WERE RETARDED. PRV MESSAGE NO LONGER ANNUNCIATED. AS I REACHED FORWARD TO DEPLOY REVERSERS; THROTTLES ADVANCED AUTOMATICALLY. I SHOULD HAVE MADE SURE AUTOTHROTTLES WERE DISCONNECTED. THE PRV MESSAGE WAS ANNUNCIATED FOR APPROX 1 SECOND; AND THE THROTTLES WERE RETARDED AND ADVANCED IN APPROX 1 SECOND. NOW ABOVE 80 KTS; OUR PROCS SPECIFICALLY STATE CONDITIONS FOR ABORTING; NONE OF WHICH EXISTED. TKOF AND FLT TO CDG WERE CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 704291: DURING TKOF FROM RWY 35L THE CAPT ADVANCED THE THROTTLES AND CALLED FOR ARM AUTOTHROTTLES; ENGAGE N1. SHORTLY AFTER MAX TKOF PWR WAS REACHED; AT APPROX 60-70 KTS; WE RECEIVED A MASTER CAUTION; BEEPER; AND 'ENG PRV EICAS' MESSAGES. THE CAPT CLOSED THE THROTTLES TO DISCONTINUE THE TKOF. AS HE MOVED TO DEPLOY THE THRUST REVERSERS THE MESSAGE WENT AWAY AND THE AUTOTHROTTLES; WHICH WERE STILL ENGAGED AND THEY HAD NOT GONE INTO THROTTLE HOLD YET; ADVANCED THE THROTTLES BACK TO MAX TKOF PWR. THE THROTTLES WERE BACK ONLY BRIEFLY. AT THIS POINT WE WERE OVER 80 KTS; WITH NO ABNORMAL SITUATION INDICATED; AND THE TKOF WAS CONTINUED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 704293: ON TKOF ROLL WITH PWR SET; SPD 60-70 KTS; THE ENG PRV EICAS MESSAGE APPEARED. THE CAPT; WHO WAS FLYING; RETARDED THE THROTTLES AND THE MESSAGE IMMEDIATELY WENT AWAY. AS THE CAPT MOVED HIS HAND TO USE THE THRUST REVERSERS; THE AUTOTHROTTLES ADVANCED THE PWR TO TKOF PWR. BY THE TIME I REALIZED HE WAS CONTINUING THE TKOF; WE WERE OVER 100 KTS. I DID NOT CALL FOR AN ABORT. I FELT ANY ACTION AS FB AT THAT POINT WOULD CONFUSE THE SITUATION; SO I DIDN'T. ALL SYS WERE NORMAL. THE ELAPSED TIME OF THE PWR REDUCTION WAS ABOUT 1 SECOND. WE MADE AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG AT CDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.