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Attributes | |
ACN | 708173 |
Time | |
Date | 200608 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 708173 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 708171 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Environmental Factor |
Narrative:
We were given a visual clearance to runway 24R; with a B747 4-5 mi ahead for runway 24L. The winds were about 240 degrees at 11 KTS; which helped to blow the wake into our path. We rolled right then left; recovered; and climbed to 2000 ft for vectors for another approach. Lessons learned: I will not follow a B747 to a parallel runway in any conditions; unless I am well above his path and can confirm his altitude path. Just because it is legal separation; does not make it right. I'll use better judgement and extend another 3 mi at least required separation between large and smaller aircraft must be greater if the larger aircraft is ahead and going to parallel; but close runways.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-400 ON VISUAL APCH TO LAX ENCOUNTERED WAKE TURB FROM B747 ON PARALLEL RWYS. APCH BECAME UNSTABILIZED SO THEY EXECUTED A GAR.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A VISUAL CLRNC TO RWY 24R; WITH A B747 4-5 MI AHEAD FOR RWY 24L. THE WINDS WERE ABOUT 240 DEGS AT 11 KTS; WHICH HELPED TO BLOW THE WAKE INTO OUR PATH. WE ROLLED R THEN L; RECOVERED; AND CLBED TO 2000 FT FOR VECTORS FOR ANOTHER APCH. LESSONS LEARNED: I WILL NOT FOLLOW A B747 TO A PARALLEL RWY IN ANY CONDITIONS; UNLESS I AM WELL ABOVE HIS PATH AND CAN CONFIRM HIS ALT PATH. JUST BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL SEPARATION; DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT. I'LL USE BETTER JUDGEMENT AND EXTEND ANOTHER 3 MI AT LEAST REQUIRED SEPARATION BTWN LARGE AND SMALLER ACFT MUST BE GREATER IF THE LARGER ACFT IS AHEAD AND GOING TO PARALLEL; BUT CLOSE RWYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.