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Attributes | |
ACN | 709184 |
Time | |
Date | 200609 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl single value : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : las.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Falcon 2000 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : cowby |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14700 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 709184 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight from las vegas; nv. Requested and obtained clearance through pre departure clearance. Requested flight plan download using afis but it took several mins to download so it was decided to type the flight plan manually. During manual input the departure runway was selected as well as the appropriate SID (runway 19R/cowby 2 RNAV departure). Right after finishing typing the flight plan manually; the afis download arrived and it was decided to activate it. Immediately after departure; the FMS commanded a left turn to cowby intersection which was followed; but was contrary to the departure instructions so the tower instructed us to turn again to a heading of 180 degrees. At a later time we were cleared to continue on course. What we think happened is that the afis flight plan (active flight plan) did not know what runway we were going to use and because runway selection was done at an earlier time it was assumed to be there. The active plan was missing 4 waypoints due to not knowing the departure runway and that is why it commanded a left turn instead of an initial right turn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FA20 FLT CREW FAILS TO PROGRAM DEP RWY ON COWBY RNAV SID FROM LAS. TRACK DEV OCCURS WHEN FMS COMMANDS TURN DIRECT TO COWBY.
Narrative: FLT FROM LAS VEGAS; NV. REQUESTED AND OBTAINED CLRNC THROUGH PDC. REQUESTED FLT PLAN DOWNLOAD USING AFIS BUT IT TOOK SEVERAL MINS TO DOWNLOAD SO IT WAS DECIDED TO TYPE THE FLT PLAN MANUALLY. DURING MANUAL INPUT THE DEP RWY WAS SELECTED AS WELL AS THE APPROPRIATE SID (RWY 19R/COWBY 2 RNAV DEP). RIGHT AFTER FINISHING TYPING THE FLT PLAN MANUALLY; THE AFIS DOWNLOAD ARRIVED AND IT WAS DECIDED TO ACTIVATE IT. IMMEDIATELY AFTER DEP; THE FMS COMMANDED A L TURN TO COWBY INTXN WHICH WAS FOLLOWED; BUT WAS CONTRARY TO THE DEP INSTRUCTIONS SO THE TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TURN AGAIN TO A HDG OF 180 DEGS. AT A LATER TIME WE WERE CLRED TO CONTINUE ON COURSE. WHAT WE THINK HAPPENED IS THAT THE AFIS FLT PLAN (ACTIVE FLT PLAN) DID NOT KNOW WHAT RWY WE WERE GOING TO USE AND BECAUSE RWY SELECTION WAS DONE AT AN EARLIER TIME IT WAS ASSUMED TO BE THERE. THE ACTIVE PLAN WAS MISSING 4 WAYPOINTS DUE TO NOT KNOWING THE DEP RWY AND THAT IS WHY IT COMMANDED A L TURN INSTEAD OF AN INITIAL R TURN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.