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Attributes | |
ACN | 709794 |
Time | |
Date | 200609 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : hln.vortac |
State Reference | MT |
Altitude | msl single value : 34000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc.artcc artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j9.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 709794 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
While cruising at FL340 observed crossing traffic at FL350. The traffic was approximately 10 miles ahead as observed on the TCAS. A few minutes later my aircraft encountered a sharp jolt of moderate intensity. I inquired with ATC what type of aircraft had crossed our path. ZLC said a boeing 747 1000 ft up. I told the controller that we had encountered moderate turbulence from the B747 and would have appreciated some notification of an impending traffic call especially a heavy. I also asked that the controller make a report per my event. At the time of the encounter; the air was smooth and the seat belt sign was turned off. After my report to ATC; I contacted my flight crew to ascertain if anyone had been injured and made a PA announcement to my passenger explaining what had occurred. Had this turbulence been associated along the longitudinal axis rather than the lateral axis; the outcome could have been much worse. It is my opinion that wake turn separation needs to be developed for cruise flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CREW RPTS WAKE TURB ENCOUNTER NEAR HLN AT FL340 FROM CROSSING B747 AT FL350.
Narrative: WHILE CRUISING AT FL340 OBSERVED CROSSING TFC AT FL350. THE TFC WAS APPROX 10 MILES AHEAD AS OBSERVED ON THE TCAS. A FEW MINUTES LATER MY ACFT ENCOUNTERED A SHARP JOLT OF MODERATE INTENSITY. I INQUIRED WITH ATC WHAT TYPE OF ACFT HAD CROSSED OUR PATH. ZLC SAID A BOEING 747 1000 FT UP. I TOLD THE CTLR THAT WE HAD ENCOUNTERED MODERATE TURB FROM THE B747 AND WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED SOME NOTIFICATION OF AN IMPENDING TFC CALL ESPECIALLY A HVY. I ALSO ASKED THAT THE CTLR MAKE A RPT PER MY EVENT. AT THE TIME OF THE ENCOUNTER; THE AIR WAS SMOOTH AND THE SEAT BELT SIGN WAS TURNED OFF. AFTER MY RPT TO ATC; I CONTACTED MY FLT CREW TO ASCERTAIN IF ANYONE HAD BEEN INJURED AND MADE A PA ANNOUNCEMENT TO MY PAX EXPLAINING WHAT HAD OCCURRED. HAD THIS TURB BEEN ASSOCIATED ALONG THE LONGITUDINAL AXIS RATHER THAN THE LATERAL AXIS; THE OUTCOME COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH WORSE. IT IS MY OPINION THAT WAKE TURN SEPARATION NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED FOR CRUISE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.