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Attributes | |
ACN | 714511 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 714511 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Captain flying visual approach to sna. Approved for visual; descent is slow arriving at the OM at 1500+ ft high. Captain is attempting to get the plane down with drag and an south turn. Never stabilized. Not configured with flaps 40 degrees due to too high of airspeed. Captain gets the plane on the runway and maximum reverse and maximum braking required to stop. Used all of the runway to get stopped. I did not call for a go around like I should have. We were both tired from an early wake up in atl. Just a plain crappy job done by both of us. Captain behind the plane the whole time in what is actually a fun approach and arrival normally. He is normally on top of the situation. Could have been a very bad situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-800 ON VISUAL APCH TO SNA IS HIGH AT OM AND UNSTABILIZED TO TOUCHDOWN.
Narrative: CAPT FLYING VISUAL APCH TO SNA. APPROVED FOR VISUAL; DSCNT IS SLOW ARRIVING AT THE OM AT 1500+ FT HIGH. CAPT IS ATTEMPTING TO GET THE PLANE DOWN WITH DRAG AND AN S TURN. NEVER STABILIZED. NOT CONFIGURED WITH FLAPS 40 DEGS DUE TO TOO HIGH OF AIRSPD. CAPT GETS THE PLANE ON THE RWY AND MAX REVERSE AND MAX BRAKING REQUIRED TO STOP. USED ALL OF THE RWY TO GET STOPPED. I DID NOT CALL FOR A GAR LIKE I SHOULD HAVE. WE WERE BOTH TIRED FROM AN EARLY WAKE UP IN ATL. JUST A PLAIN CRAPPY JOB DONE BY BOTH OF US. CAPT BEHIND THE PLANE THE WHOLE TIME IN WHAT IS ACTUALLY A FUN APCH AND ARR NORMALLY. HE IS NORMALLY ON TOP OF THE SITUATION. COULD HAVE BEEN A VERY BAD SITUATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.