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Attributes | |
ACN | 715136 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : clt.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 165 flight time type : 4251 |
ASRS Report | 715136 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Our aircraft had an FMS database that was out of date and was deferred. The flight plan was correctly filed with an equipment code of '/west.' however; the filed flight plan showed the CADIT4 departure which is an RNAV departure. MEL states that I must be able to verify waypoints using ground based system. Pure RNAV waypoints like on the CADIT4 can't be verified using that method. When my first officer requested our clearance the clearance we received already had the CADIT4 removed from it by ATC. As a result there was no action required on our part to remove it; and a potential safety/violation issue was avoided.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB145 FLT CREW HAS OUT OF DATE FMS DATABASE.
Narrative: OUR ACFT HAD AN FMS DATABASE THAT WAS OUT OF DATE AND WAS DEFERRED. THE FLT PLAN WAS CORRECTLY FILED WITH AN EQUIP CODE OF '/W.' HOWEVER; THE FILED FLT PLAN SHOWED THE CADIT4 DEP WHICH IS AN RNAV DEP. MEL STATES THAT I MUST BE ABLE TO VERIFY WAYPOINTS USING GND BASED SYS. PURE RNAV WAYPOINTS LIKE ON THE CADIT4 CAN'T BE VERIFIED USING THAT METHOD. WHEN MY FO REQUESTED OUR CLRNC THE CLRNC WE RECEIVED ALREADY HAD THE CADIT4 REMOVED FROM IT BY ATC. AS A RESULT THERE WAS NO ACTION REQUIRED ON OUR PART TO REMOVE IT; AND A POTENTIAL SAFETY/VIOLATION ISSUE WAS AVOIDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.