C182RG flight crew has an unstabilized approach to jvl.

Attributes
ACN	716380
Time
Date	200611
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jvl.airport
State Reference	WI
Altitude	msl single value : 3000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : jvl.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : jvl.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Cessna 140
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : visual
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 4 flight time total : 1070 flight time type : 35
ASRS Report	716380
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 8 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 215
ASRS Report	716371
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Passenger Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Passenger Human Performance

Narrative:

I was flying from the left seat as PIC. After receiving the current ATIS; we reported our position; 10 mi southeast at 3000 ft MSL to the janesville tower; requesting landing instructions. At almost the same time; another aircraft; a C140; reported in at almost the same position. The tower asked us if we could see the other aircraft. We said we could. The tower asked us for our type aircraft and asked the other aircraft the same. The tower told us to then follow the other aircraft for landing. I got in trail behind the C140 and did some s-turns to slow our approach. I believe I became distraction by trying to remain; in a much faster aircraft; at a safe distance behind the leading airplane. In so doing; I came in too fast; bounced the plane a couple of times and asked my right seat accompanying pilot (an ATP and former CFI) to take over. He accomplished this very quickly and brought us to a halt. At this point the other aircraft was just clearing the runway ahead of us. I believe the problem developed initially by the coincidence of the arrival of 2 aircraft in almost identical position. Contributing factors were the divergent speeds of the 2 aircraft. Corrective actions should have been to either discuss the speed issue with the tower and ask to be the first to land or to request a 360 degree turn to re-enter the approach. Failing either of those; I should have performed a go around off of the approach. Supplemental information from acn 716371: about 2 mi out; the PIC stated to me that we should go around. I knew that we could slow further and make s-turns to stay in trail with adequate spacing. I recommend that we continue the approach. The approach deteriorated with the PIC flying an uncomfortable approach which he didn't want to be doing. The touchdown was fast with the other plane still on the runway. The PIC then lost control and the aircraft started to bounce. He then passed control to me and I managed to get the aircraft under control and almost caught up to the other aircraft as he turned off the runway. What I had done in pushing the PIC to continue could have turned into a runway collision. Lesson learned: if you are not PIC; restrict your suggestions to safety items.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: C182RG FLT CREW HAS AN UNSTABILIZED APCH TO JVL.

Narrative: I WAS FLYING FROM THE L SEAT AS PIC. AFTER RECEIVING THE CURRENT ATIS; WE RPTED OUR POS; 10 MI SE AT 3000 FT MSL TO THE JANESVILLE TWR; REQUESTING LNDG INSTRUCTIONS. AT ALMOST THE SAME TIME; ANOTHER ACFT; A C140; RPTED IN AT ALMOST THE SAME POS. THE TWR ASKED US IF WE COULD SEE THE OTHER ACFT. WE SAID WE COULD. THE TWR ASKED US FOR OUR TYPE ACFT AND ASKED THE OTHER ACFT THE SAME. THE TWR TOLD US TO THEN FOLLOW THE OTHER ACFT FOR LNDG. I GOT IN TRAIL BEHIND THE C140 AND DID SOME S-TURNS TO SLOW OUR APCH. I BELIEVE I BECAME DISTR BY TRYING TO REMAIN; IN A MUCH FASTER ACFT; AT A SAFE DISTANCE BEHIND THE LEADING AIRPLANE. IN SO DOING; I CAME IN TOO FAST; BOUNCED THE PLANE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND ASKED MY R SEAT ACCOMPANYING PLT (AN ATP AND FORMER CFI) TO TAKE OVER. HE ACCOMPLISHED THIS VERY QUICKLY AND BROUGHT US TO A HALT. AT THIS POINT THE OTHER ACFT WAS JUST CLRING THE RWY AHEAD OF US. I BELIEVE THE PROB DEVELOPED INITIALLY BY THE COINCIDENCE OF THE ARR OF 2 ACFT IN ALMOST IDENTICAL POS. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE THE DIVERGENT SPDS OF THE 2 ACFT. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO EITHER DISCUSS THE SPD ISSUE WITH THE TWR AND ASK TO BE THE FIRST TO LAND OR TO REQUEST A 360 DEG TURN TO RE-ENTER THE APCH. FAILING EITHER OF THOSE; I SHOULD HAVE PERFORMED A GAR OFF OF THE APCH. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 716371: ABOUT 2 MI OUT; THE PIC STATED TO ME THAT WE SHOULD GO AROUND. I KNEW THAT WE COULD SLOW FURTHER AND MAKE S-TURNS TO STAY IN TRAIL WITH ADEQUATE SPACING. I RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE THE APCH. THE APCH DETERIORATED WITH THE PIC FLYING AN UNCOMFORTABLE APCH WHICH HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE DOING. THE TOUCHDOWN WAS FAST WITH THE OTHER PLANE STILL ON THE RWY. THE PIC THEN LOST CTL AND THE ACFT STARTED TO BOUNCE. HE THEN PASSED CTL TO ME AND I MANAGED TO GET THE ACFT UNDER CTL AND ALMOST CAUGHT UP TO THE OTHER ACFT AS HE TURNED OFF THE RWY. WHAT I HAD DONE IN PUSHING THE PIC TO CONTINUE COULD HAVE TURNED INTO A RWY COLLISION. LESSON LEARNED: IF YOU ARE NOT PIC; RESTRICT YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO SAFETY ITEMS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.