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Attributes | |
ACN | 716612 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | other |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 716612 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
On walk around in ZZZ for next flight; ramp person asked if there was any problems with weights moving during our flight. Told him not one that I was aware of. Apparently; ZZZ1 ramp personnel had not secured either cargo hold; and all bins and pallets were not locked in position properly and had shifted and moved during our landing or takeoff. 6 of them weighed over 6;000 pounds; and 1 weighed over 10;000 pounds according to the ramp personnel. They had to unload and reload all the bins correctly prior to our next flight. Talking with the captain during our next leg; he commented that he felt the aircraft was sluggish coming off the ground on rotation; and mentioned that attitude during approach seemed a little 'different' than normal. There never appeared to be problems controling the aircraft; and other than being told on the ground in ZZZ; I don't think we would have ever known about this issue. One other thing; the ramp supervisor in ZZZ1 did mention to us that they were having trouble loading some bins; but that was all that was said; and did not give it a second thought until we landed in ZZZ and were questioned by the ramp personnel there. They said that this is an ongoing problem with aircraft coming in from ZZZ1.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE CARGO IN BOTH OF A B777'S CARGO BINS WERE NOT SECURED ON PREFLT AND SO SHIFTED DURING FLT.
Narrative: ON WALK AROUND IN ZZZ FOR NEXT FLT; RAMP PERSON ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY PROBLEMS WITH WTS MOVING DURING OUR FLT. TOLD HIM NOT ONE THAT I WAS AWARE OF. APPARENTLY; ZZZ1 RAMP PERSONNEL HAD NOT SECURED EITHER CARGO HOLD; AND ALL BINS AND PALLETS WERE NOT LOCKED IN POSITION PROPERLY AND HAD SHIFTED AND MOVED DURING OUR LNDG OR TKOF. 6 OF THEM WEIGHED OVER 6;000 LBS; AND 1 WEIGHED OVER 10;000 LBS ACCORDING TO THE RAMP PERSONNEL. THEY HAD TO UNLOAD AND RELOAD ALL THE BINS CORRECTLY PRIOR TO OUR NEXT FLT. TALKING WITH THE CAPT DURING OUR NEXT LEG; HE COMMENTED THAT HE FELT THE ACFT WAS SLUGGISH COMING OFF THE GND ON ROTATION; AND MENTIONED THAT ATTITUDE DURING APCH SEEMED A LITTLE 'DIFFERENT' THAN NORMAL. THERE NEVER APPEARED TO BE PROBS CTLING THE ACFT; AND OTHER THAN BEING TOLD ON THE GND IN ZZZ; I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE EVER KNOWN ABOUT THIS ISSUE. ONE OTHER THING; THE RAMP SUPVR IN ZZZ1 DID MENTION TO US THAT THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE LOADING SOME BINS; BUT THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS SAID; AND DID NOT GIVE IT A SECOND THOUGHT UNTIL WE LANDED IN ZZZ AND WERE QUESTIONED BY THE RAMP PERSONNEL THERE. THEY SAID THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING PROB WITH ACFT COMING IN FROM ZZZ1.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.