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Attributes | |
ACN | 716763 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 716763 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Got a message on mcdu that said FMGC 1/2 TOGW mismatch. Had the same message several weeks ago on another aircraft; and when I called maintenance on that occasion I was directed to return to the gate; where a 3 hour delay ensued which did not fix the problem; and I canceled the flight. Since that flight I discovered that the fix for that issue is relatively simple; and had been published in a company publication; but was not made part of the MEL procedure for a flight quantity indicator channel inoperative; which causes the subsequent message display. Nor was it made an additional procedure in the flight manual that I am aware of; but that doesn't matter. The issue is that it is not part of the MEL deferral procedure and has caused flight delays/cancellations that cost time and money. Why the procedure is not incorporated; I don't know; but upon getting this similar issue I used captain's authority/authorized to simply input manually the aircraft fuel weight; which got rid of the message; and we took off instead of calling maintenance; who might have had me return to the gate. I have notified maintenance of this omission and will also call the fleet technical support people.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 FLT CREW HAS A TOGW MISMATCH BTWN THE 2 FMGC'S.
Narrative: GOT A MESSAGE ON MCDU THAT SAID FMGC 1/2 TOGW MISMATCH. HAD THE SAME MESSAGE SEVERAL WKS AGO ON ANOTHER ACFT; AND WHEN I CALLED MAINT ON THAT OCCASION I WAS DIRECTED TO RETURN TO THE GATE; WHERE A 3 HR DELAY ENSUED WHICH DID NOT FIX THE PROB; AND I CANCELED THE FLT. SINCE THAT FLT I DISCOVERED THAT THE FIX FOR THAT ISSUE IS RELATIVELY SIMPLE; AND HAD BEEN PUBLISHED IN A COMPANY PUB; BUT WAS NOT MADE PART OF THE MEL PROC FOR A FLT QUANTITY INDICATOR CHANNEL INOP; WHICH CAUSES THE SUBSEQUENT MESSAGE DISPLAY. NOR WAS IT MADE AN ADDITIONAL PROC IN THE FLT MANUAL THAT I AM AWARE OF; BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER. THE ISSUE IS THAT IT IS NOT PART OF THE MEL DEFERRAL PROC AND HAS CAUSED FLT DELAYS/CANCELLATIONS THAT COST TIME AND MONEY. WHY THE PROC IS NOT INCORPORATED; I DON'T KNOW; BUT UPON GETTING THIS SIMILAR ISSUE I USED CAPT'S AUTH TO SIMPLY INPUT MANUALLY THE ACFT FUEL WT; WHICH GOT RID OF THE MESSAGE; AND WE TOOK OFF INSTEAD OF CALLING MAINT; WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD ME RETURN TO THE GATE. I HAVE NOTIFIED MAINT OF THIS OMISSION AND WILL ALSO CALL THE FLEET TECHNICAL SUPPORT PEOPLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.