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Attributes | |
ACN | 718528 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : chs.tracon |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : chs.tracon |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | C17 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : chs.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar controller : military |
Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 20 controller time certified in position1 : 4 |
ASRS Report | 718528 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne critical non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ILS approach to runway 33 was advertised. The air carrier Y was on a vector for the approach at 2000 ft. The C17 requested the full VOR/TACAN runway 33 approach. I told the C17 to proceed direct the chs VORTAC and outbound on the approach; expect approach clearance procedure turn inbound; descend and maintain 3000 ft. The pilot read it back verbatim. When the C17 was 2 mi north of the VORTAC I issued traffic that the air carrier Y was 9 mi south of the VORTAC nebound at 2000 ft for the ILS runway 33 approach. The C17 said he was IMC. I then issued traffic to the air carrier Y that the C17 was over the VORTAC turning southeast at 3000 ft; he also said he was IMC. I cleared the air carrier Y for the ILS runway 33 approach. Our VORTAC is located on the airport so I lost the C17 over the main bang of the radar. When he reappeared he was 2 mi southeast of the VORTAC sebound indicating 2300 ft. He was nose-to-nose with the air carrier Y who was at 2000 ft. I immediately told the C17 to climb and maintain 3000 ft and turn right heading 240 degrees immediately. I then told the air carrier Y to turn right heading 060 degrees immediately because the C17 traffic had descended. I then asked the C17 why he had descended. He said because the approach plate told him to descend to 2100 ft after crossing the VORTAC outbound. I said but I told you to maintain 3000 ft and even issued you the 2000 ft traffic on the air carrier Y. The C17 pilot said oh; sorry I messed up. The only thing I could have done differently was to tell him to maintain 3000 ft until I advised; but I thought my instructions were very clear.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CHS CTLR DESCRIBED CONFLICT AT APPROX 2300 FT WHEN C17 ON VOR AND TACAN APCH DSNDED BELOW ASSIGNED ALT AND CONFLICTED WITH TFC ON ILS APCH.
Narrative: ILS APCH TO RWY 33 WAS ADVERTISED. THE ACR Y WAS ON A VECTOR FOR THE APCH AT 2000 FT. THE C17 REQUESTED THE FULL VOR/TACAN RWY 33 APCH. I TOLD THE C17 TO PROCEED DIRECT THE CHS VORTAC AND OUTBOUND ON THE APCH; EXPECT APCH CLRNC PROC TURN INBOUND; DSND AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT. THE PLT READ IT BACK VERBATIM. WHEN THE C17 WAS 2 MI N OF THE VORTAC I ISSUED TFC THAT THE ACR Y WAS 9 MI S OF THE VORTAC NEBOUND AT 2000 FT FOR THE ILS RWY 33 APCH. THE C17 SAID HE WAS IMC. I THEN ISSUED TFC TO THE ACR Y THAT THE C17 WAS OVER THE VORTAC TURNING SE AT 3000 FT; HE ALSO SAID HE WAS IMC. I CLRED THE ACR Y FOR THE ILS RWY 33 APCH. OUR VORTAC IS LOCATED ON THE ARPT SO I LOST THE C17 OVER THE MAIN BANG OF THE RADAR. WHEN HE REAPPEARED HE WAS 2 MI SE OF THE VORTAC SEBOUND INDICATING 2300 FT. HE WAS NOSE-TO-NOSE WITH THE ACR Y WHO WAS AT 2000 FT. I IMMEDIATELY TOLD THE C17 TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT AND TURN R HDG 240 DEGS IMMEDIATELY. I THEN TOLD THE ACR Y TO TURN R HDG 060 DEGS IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THE C17 TFC HAD DSNDED. I THEN ASKED THE C17 WHY HE HAD DSNDED. HE SAID BECAUSE THE APCH PLATE TOLD HIM TO DSND TO 2100 FT AFTER XING THE VORTAC OUTBOUND. I SAID BUT I TOLD YOU TO MAINTAIN 3000 FT AND EVEN ISSUED YOU THE 2000 FT TFC ON THE ACR Y. THE C17 PLT SAID OH; SORRY I MESSED UP. THE ONLY THING I COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY WAS TO TELL HIM TO MAINTAIN 3000 FT UNTIL I ADVISED; BUT I THOUGHT MY INSTRUCTIONS WERE VERY CLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.