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Attributes | |
ACN | 721443 |
Time | |
Date | 200612 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ont.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : pom |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 721443 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 1050 |
ASRS Report | 721446 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After takeoff; tower switched flight to socal departure and departure told us to level at 4000 ft due to VFR traffic at 4500 ft. Aircraft leveled at 4000 ft and started to accelerate to 250 KTS. Crew acquired visual on cessna aircraft at 4500 ft. Departure gave a clearance to climb to 14000 ft and comply with SID altitude restrs. First officer did not hear clearance clearly and asked for confirmation and controller gave climb to 14000 ft and disregard altitude restrs and cleared us direct to pom VOR. Aircraft had started a shallow right turn to intercept the pom 114 degree radial and pilot monitoring did not redirect FMS to direct pom because aircraft was turning and we had visual on traffic. The traffic was flying south and although it was closer than normal; it was not going to be a factor. Once our aircraft started to climb to 14000 ft the TCAS RA warning was activated and commanded a vertical speed climb. The aircraft was already in the vertical speed green band while on the autoplt and profile mode. The good news in this TCAS event was the crew had a visual on the traffic and was confident throughout the episode that the traffic was not going to create a near miss situation. I believe that if the controller had allowed us to climb to 7000 ft after takeoff; we would have avoided any TCAS conflict with the VFR traffic at 4500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIRBUS A300 FLT CREW HAS A TCAS RA DEP ONT.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF; TWR SWITCHED FLT TO SOCAL DEP AND DEP TOLD US TO LEVEL AT 4000 FT DUE TO VFR TFC AT 4500 FT. ACFT LEVELED AT 4000 FT AND STARTED TO ACCELERATE TO 250 KTS. CREW ACQUIRED VISUAL ON CESSNA ACFT AT 4500 FT. DEP GAVE A CLRNC TO CLB TO 14000 FT AND COMPLY WITH SID ALT RESTRS. FO DID NOT HEAR CLRNC CLRLY AND ASKED FOR CONFIRMATION AND CTLR GAVE CLB TO 14000 FT AND DISREGARD ALT RESTRS AND CLRED US DIRECT TO POM VOR. ACFT HAD STARTED A SHALLOW R TURN TO INTERCEPT THE POM 114 DEG RADIAL AND PLT MONITORING DID NOT REDIRECT FMS TO DIRECT POM BECAUSE ACFT WAS TURNING AND WE HAD VISUAL ON TFC. THE TFC WAS FLYING S AND ALTHOUGH IT WAS CLOSER THAN NORMAL; IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE A FACTOR. ONCE OUR ACFT STARTED TO CLB TO 14000 FT THE TCAS RA WARNING WAS ACTIVATED AND COMMANDED A VERT SPD CLB. THE ACFT WAS ALREADY IN THE VERT SPD GREEN BAND WHILE ON THE AUTOPLT AND PROFILE MODE. THE GOOD NEWS IN THIS TCAS EVENT WAS THE CREW HAD A VISUAL ON THE TFC AND WAS CONFIDENT THROUGHOUT THE EPISODE THAT THE TFC WAS NOT GOING TO CREATE A NEAR MISS SITUATION. I BELIEVE THAT IF THE CTLR HAD ALLOWED US TO CLB TO 7000 FT AFTER TKOF; WE WOULD HAVE AVOIDED ANY TCAS CONFLICT WITH THE VFR TFC AT 4500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.