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Attributes | |
ACN | 730688 |
Time | |
Date | 200703 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mce.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | SR22 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Rockwell Aero Commander single-engine undifferentiated |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 580 flight time type : 380 |
ASRS Report | 730688 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
While landing at mce; I was downwind approaching turn to base when the commander announced 5 mi final straight-in. There were 2 other cessna aircraft in the pattern doing touch-and-goes. One was landing; one turning crosswind. At time to turn base; commander said I'm breaking out to give you guys some more room. He was approximately 1 mi out. I turned base then final assuming the commander was going upwind. Then the commander called out that I had cut him off. He had to take evasive action; which I did not see; then landed behind me. The other 2 airplanes; cessna's; left the pattern. I apologized to the pilot of the commander; as I truly did not intend to cause a conflict. In hindsight; I should have extended downwind until I knew for sure what the commander was going to do; so as not to be in his way. I would not have turned base or final if the commander had not said 'I will break out and give you guys room.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SR22 AND COMMANDER EXPERIENCE NMAC ON APCH TO MCE.
Narrative: WHILE LNDG AT MCE; I WAS DOWNWIND APCHING TURN TO BASE WHEN THE COMMANDER ANNOUNCED 5 MI FINAL STRAIGHT-IN. THERE WERE 2 OTHER CESSNA ACFT IN THE PATTERN DOING TOUCH-AND-GOES. ONE WAS LNDG; ONE TURNING XWIND. AT TIME TO TURN BASE; COMMANDER SAID I'M BREAKING OUT TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME MORE ROOM. HE WAS APPROX 1 MI OUT. I TURNED BASE THEN FINAL ASSUMING THE COMMANDER WAS GOING UPWIND. THEN THE COMMANDER CALLED OUT THAT I HAD CUT HIM OFF. HE HAD TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION; WHICH I DID NOT SEE; THEN LANDED BEHIND ME. THE OTHER 2 AIRPLANES; CESSNA'S; LEFT THE PATTERN. I APOLOGIZED TO THE PLT OF THE COMMANDER; AS I TRULY DID NOT INTEND TO CAUSE A CONFLICT. IN HINDSIGHT; I SHOULD HAVE EXTENDED DOWNWIND UNTIL I KNEW FOR SURE WHAT THE COMMANDER WAS GOING TO DO; SO AS NOT TO BE IN HIS WAY. I WOULD NOT HAVE TURNED BASE OR FINAL IF THE COMMANDER HAD NOT SAID 'I WILL BREAK OUT AND GIVE YOU GUYS ROOM.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.