Narrative:

Flight into lpb. Captain advised me he had not been to lpb 'in a while.' last yr I probably flew it 15 times. Turns out; he had not been there is 7 yrs. He said 'it can't be that hard.' above average captain. He flew leg to la paz. I had third break. Passenger in the forward lavatory for 10 mins; so I got to cockpit later than usual. Suffice it to say; we were very high and very fast. New arcing approach; 8 DME arc; things come a lot quicker than they used to! Had I been a check airman evaluating our flight; I would not qualify that crew. I don't want to go too deep into the mess we made of the arrival. There were numerous serious issues. With the experience of the relief pilot and first officer; and the fact that the captain is an above average pilot; we 'saved' the arrival with some 'creativity.' no FARS were violated. I will be as clear as I can: it is unsafe to send a pilot down there without seeing it first with a check airman. In my opinion; it is an unsafe pop. Guess who the 'check airmen' were on that flight? The two first officer's again. I think that sending a pilot to lpb without seeing it first with a check airman is unsafe. The captain is above average and thought he could handle it -- 'it can't be that bad.' he was wrong! If a good pilot and 2 competent first officer's can clown it up the way we did; so can others. Have I been clear enough?!

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B757-200 FIRST OFFICER IS CONCERNED ABOUT ACR'S FAILURE TO REQUIRE A ROUTE CHECK FOR FLT CREW INTO SLLP; A VERY HIGH ALTITUDE ARPT.

Narrative: FLT INTO LPB. CAPT ADVISED ME HE HAD NOT BEEN TO LPB 'IN A WHILE.' LAST YR I PROBABLY FLEW IT 15 TIMES. TURNS OUT; HE HAD NOT BEEN THERE IS 7 YRS. HE SAID 'IT CAN'T BE THAT HARD.' ABOVE AVERAGE CAPT. HE FLEW LEG TO LA PAZ. I HAD THIRD BREAK. PAX IN THE FORWARD LAVATORY FOR 10 MINS; SO I GOT TO COCKPIT LATER THAN USUAL. SUFFICE IT TO SAY; WE WERE VERY HIGH AND VERY FAST. NEW ARCING APCH; 8 DME ARC; THINGS COME A LOT QUICKER THAN THEY USED TO! HAD I BEEN A CHK AIRMAN EVALUATING OUR FLT; I WOULD NOT QUALIFY THAT CREW. I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO DEEP INTO THE MESS WE MADE OF THE ARR. THERE WERE NUMEROUS SERIOUS ISSUES. WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF THE RELIEF PLT AND FO; AND THE FACT THAT THE CAPT IS AN ABOVE AVERAGE PLT; WE 'SAVED' THE ARR WITH SOME 'CREATIVITY.' NO FARS WERE VIOLATED. I WILL BE AS CLR AS I CAN: IT IS UNSAFE TO SEND A PLT DOWN THERE WITHOUT SEEING IT FIRST WITH A CHK AIRMAN. IN MY OPINION; IT IS AN UNSAFE POP. GUESS WHO THE 'CHK AIRMEN' WERE ON THAT FLT? THE TWO FO'S AGAIN. I THINK THAT SENDING A PLT TO LPB WITHOUT SEEING IT FIRST WITH A CHK AIRMAN IS UNSAFE. THE CAPT IS ABOVE AVERAGE AND THOUGHT HE COULD HANDLE IT -- 'IT CAN'T BE THAT BAD.' HE WAS WRONG! IF A GOOD PLT AND 2 COMPETENT FO'S CAN CLOWN IT UP THE WAY WE DID; SO CAN OTHERS. HAVE I BEEN CLR ENOUGH?!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.