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Attributes | |
ACN | 753980 |
Time | |
Date | 200709 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 3ck.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 310/T310C |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 425 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 753980 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was flying my C310 into 3CK under the ord bravo. I canceled IFR 10 mi out; listened to the CTAF; and determined there was what sounded like a student and instructor doing touch-and-goes in the pattern. I idented them; announced I had them in sight on the CTAF; and that I would follow them in. I extended my downwind until they were almost down; announced base and final; and as I touched down they were just starting to turn off the runway onto the taxiway at the end of the runway. As he turned off; the skyhawk angrily announced on the CTAF that I was 'in violation' for landing while he was still on the runway. I was confused by that; since I had him in sight constantly; and was prepared to go around if he stopped on the runway (which he did not). The runway is somewhat short (3100 ft); but there was never any issue of safety. I assumed there might be a local procedure regarding 2 aircraft occupying the runway; and said something on the CTAF about being unaware of such procedure. The skyhawk; now even more angry; told me to read my aim. I am unaware of any section of the aim that prohibits touching down while another aircraft is not yet off the runway; nor any far (except the general right-of-way; and safety of flight regulations; none of which were violated. But; I am filing this in the event that I did commit a violation; partly because of the several announcements to that effect over the CTAF.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C-310 LANDED AT UNCONTROLLED ARPT; FOLLOWING ANOTHER ACFT. WHEN ACFT TOUCHED DOWN; THE PRECEDING ACFT WAS EXITING THE SAME RWY. THE PLT OF THE PRECEDING ACFT COMPLAINED THAT THIS WAS AN UNSAFE AND PROHIBITED PRACTICE.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING MY C310 INTO 3CK UNDER THE ORD BRAVO. I CANCELED IFR 10 MI OUT; LISTENED TO THE CTAF; AND DETERMINED THERE WAS WHAT SOUNDED LIKE A STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR DOING TOUCH-AND-GOES IN THE PATTERN. I IDENTED THEM; ANNOUNCED I HAD THEM IN SIGHT ON THE CTAF; AND THAT I WOULD FOLLOW THEM IN. I EXTENDED MY DOWNWIND UNTIL THEY WERE ALMOST DOWN; ANNOUNCED BASE AND FINAL; AND AS I TOUCHED DOWN THEY WERE JUST STARTING TO TURN OFF THE RWY ONTO THE TXWY AT THE END OF THE RWY. AS HE TURNED OFF; THE SKYHAWK ANGRILY ANNOUNCED ON THE CTAF THAT I WAS 'IN VIOLATION' FOR LNDG WHILE HE WAS STILL ON THE RWY. I WAS CONFUSED BY THAT; SINCE I HAD HIM IN SIGHT CONSTANTLY; AND WAS PREPARED TO GO AROUND IF HE STOPPED ON THE RWY (WHICH HE DID NOT). THE RWY IS SOMEWHAT SHORT (3100 FT); BUT THERE WAS NEVER ANY ISSUE OF SAFETY. I ASSUMED THERE MIGHT BE A LCL PROC REGARDING 2 ACFT OCCUPYING THE RWY; AND SAID SOMETHING ON THE CTAF ABOUT BEING UNAWARE OF SUCH PROC. THE SKYHAWK; NOW EVEN MORE ANGRY; TOLD ME TO READ MY AIM. I AM UNAWARE OF ANY SECTION OF THE AIM THAT PROHIBITS TOUCHING DOWN WHILE ANOTHER ACFT IS NOT YET OFF THE RWY; NOR ANY FAR (EXCEPT THE GENERAL RIGHT-OF-WAY; AND SAFETY OF FLT REGS; NONE OF WHICH WERE VIOLATED. BUT; I AM FILING THIS IN THE EVENT THAT I DID COMMIT A VIOLATION; PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE SEVERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THAT EFFECT OVER THE CTAF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.