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Attributes | |
ACN | 754401 |
Time | |
Date | 200709 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1 flight time total : 5400 flight time type : 1 |
ASRS Report | 754401 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After takeoff from teb we performed the teb 5 departure from runway 24. We knew to climb initially to 1500 ft and then at 4.5 DME turn to heading of 280. Once on the 280 heading we knew to climb to 2000 ft. This was my first takeoff in the airplane ever and I overshot the initial altitude of 1500 feet by 100 feet. In other words we stopped our climb at 1600 and eventually made our way back down to 1500 feet. ATC queried whether we were leveling at 1500 and we replied with an affirmative. They did not state that there was any conflict caused and after that; we continued uneventfully. Besides being my first takeoff in the airplane; another thing that contributed was that my seat position was too far aft. When it came time to level at the 1500 foot altitude; I had a difficult time with applying sufficient forward pressure on the yoke to lower the pitch of the airplane. Before the flight I moved the seat as far forward as it would go; which I thought was the stop. I also looked at the eye line ups and noticed that they were indicating that I was a little aft of where I should be. Since the seat wouldn't move any more forward; I didn't think there was anything I could do about it. In flight after we reached a point where I could further examine the seat; I found it was caught on something and eventually got it to move more forward. In retrospect; I probably should have asked the captain to make the takeoff from teb and saved my first takeoff for an airport that didn't have such a demanding departure procedure. Also; I should have looked more closely at my seat to determine why it wouldn't move forward more before the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 PILOT NEW TO THE ACFT HAD A MISADJUSTED SEAT AND LEVELED HIGH AT THE TEB 5 1500 FT CONSTRAINT BECAUSE HE COULD NOT PUSH THE YOKE ENOUGH FORWARD.
Narrative: AFTER TAKEOFF FROM TEB WE PERFORMED THE TEB 5 DEPARTURE FROM RUNWAY 24. WE KNEW TO CLIMB INITIALLY TO 1500 FT AND THEN AT 4.5 DME TURN TO HEADING OF 280. ONCE ON THE 280 HEADING WE KNEW TO CLIMB TO 2000 FT. THIS WAS MY FIRST TAKEOFF IN THE AIRPLANE EVER AND I OVERSHOT THE INITIAL ALTITUDE OF 1500 FEET BY 100 FEET. IN OTHER WORDS WE STOPPED OUR CLIMB AT 1600 AND EVENTUALLY MADE OUR WAY BACK DOWN TO 1500 FEET. ATC QUERIED WHETHER WE WERE LEVELING AT 1500 AND WE REPLIED WITH AN AFFIRMATIVE. THEY DID NOT STATE THAT THERE WAS ANY CONFLICT CAUSED AND AFTER THAT; WE CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY. BESIDES BEING MY FIRST TAKEOFF IN THE AIRPLANE; ANOTHER THING THAT CONTRIBUTED WAS THAT MY SEAT POSITION WAS TOO FAR AFT. WHEN IT CAME TIME TO LEVEL AT THE 1500 FOOT ALTITUDE; I HAD A DIFFICULT TIME WITH APPLYING SUFFICIENT FORWARD PRESSURE ON THE YOKE TO LOWER THE PITCH OF THE AIRPLANE. BEFORE THE FLIGHT I MOVED THE SEAT AS FAR FORWARD AS IT WOULD GO; WHICH I THOUGHT WAS THE STOP. I ALSO LOOKED AT THE EYE LINE UPS AND NOTICED THAT THEY WERE INDICATING THAT I WAS A LITTLE AFT OF WHERE I SHOULD BE. SINCE THE SEAT WOULDN'T MOVE ANY MORE FORWARD; I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING I COULD DO ABOUT IT. IN FLIGHT AFTER WE REACHED A POINT WHERE I COULD FURTHER EXAMINE THE SEAT; I FOUND IT WAS CAUGHT ON SOMETHING AND EVENTUALLY GOT IT TO MOVE MORE FORWARD. IN RETROSPECT; I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE CAPTAIN TO MAKE THE TAKEOFF FROM TEB AND SAVED MY FIRST TAKEOFF FOR AN AIRPORT THAT DIDN'T HAVE SUCH A DEMANDING DEPARTURE PROCEDURE. ALSO; I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED MORE CLOSELY AT MY SEAT TO DETERMINE WHY IT WOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD MORE BEFORE THE FLIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.