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Attributes | |
ACN | 754800 |
Time | |
Date | 200709 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 34000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ttzp.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ul776.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ttzp.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ul776.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 754800 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 854806 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
During non-radar operations in piarco airspace we made position reports at kaiso and ankar intxns. The standard position reports were broadcast including level flight at FL340. We had good radio reception with piarco control. We used standard radio phraseology and understood piarco control radio broadcast confirmations. We heard a radio broadcast from piarco to another aircraft to level at FL340 due to traffic at FL350. I reviewed the traffic displayed on TCAS and saw traffic at 12 O'clock position and 20 mi at FL340. Looking out the windshield; I saw the navigation lights of the traffic. I turned on the landing lights and observed the traffic turn on their landing lights and make a radio transmission indicating he was taking evasive action. I started an immediate right turn and asked first officer to confirm with the traffic that his evasive maneuver was to his right. Airline Y confirmed a right turn and transmitted to piarco that he was returning to FL330. As airline Y passed abeam our position; the airplane was 8 mi to the left at FL330. Piarco control never broadcast any TA; alerts; evasive maneuver instructions; or altitude clrncs to us. Piarco did confirm Y's altitude change to FL330. After clearing the traffic conflict; I turned left to intercept our assigned course while first officer transmitted a VOR/DME position report requested by piarco control. We never changed our altitude. We never had a TA or RA for our TCAS. After a few mins; we contacted airline Y and discovered that he had requested a climb from FL330 to FL350 with piarco and was given the clearance. Piarco control recognized a conflict and instructed him to stop his climb at FL340 rather than instructing him to return to FL330 or to expedite his climb. We noted the following coords as we made our evasive maneuver: N15 41.6 W061 11.2. The WX conditions were clear sky with unlimited visibility in smooth air.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TWO B767'S; OPERATING IN NON-RADAR ENVIRONMENT OVER THE CARIBBEAN; REALIZED THAT THEY WERE FLYING THE SAME AIRWAY HEAD-ON AT THE SAME ALT. BOTH FLTS MADE A TURN TO AVOID AND ONE 767 RETURNED TO PREVIOUS ALT.
Narrative: DURING NON-RADAR OPS IN PIARCO AIRSPACE WE MADE POS RPTS AT KAISO AND ANKAR INTXNS. THE STANDARD POS RPTS WERE BROADCAST INCLUDING LEVEL FLT AT FL340. WE HAD GOOD RADIO RECEPTION WITH PIARCO CTL. WE USED STANDARD RADIO PHRASEOLOGY AND UNDERSTOOD PIARCO CTL RADIO BROADCAST CONFIRMATIONS. WE HEARD A RADIO BROADCAST FROM PIARCO TO ANOTHER ACFT TO LEVEL AT FL340 DUE TO TFC AT FL350. I REVIEWED THE TFC DISPLAYED ON TCAS AND SAW TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK POS AND 20 MI AT FL340. LOOKING OUT THE WINDSHIELD; I SAW THE NAV LIGHTS OF THE TFC. I TURNED ON THE LNDG LIGHTS AND OBSERVED THE TFC TURN ON THEIR LNDG LIGHTS AND MAKE A RADIO XMISSION INDICATING HE WAS TAKING EVASIVE ACTION. I STARTED AN IMMEDIATE R TURN AND ASKED FO TO CONFIRM WITH THE TFC THAT HIS EVASIVE MANEUVER WAS TO HIS R. AIRLINE Y CONFIRMED A R TURN AND XMITTED TO PIARCO THAT HE WAS RETURNING TO FL330. AS AIRLINE Y PASSED ABEAM OUR POS; THE AIRPLANE WAS 8 MI TO THE L AT FL330. PIARCO CTL NEVER BROADCAST ANY TA; ALERTS; EVASIVE MANEUVER INSTRUCTIONS; OR ALT CLRNCS TO US. PIARCO DID CONFIRM Y'S ALT CHANGE TO FL330. AFTER CLRING THE TFC CONFLICT; I TURNED L TO INTERCEPT OUR ASSIGNED COURSE WHILE FO XMITTED A VOR/DME POS RPT REQUESTED BY PIARCO CTL. WE NEVER CHANGED OUR ALT. WE NEVER HAD A TA OR RA FOR OUR TCAS. AFTER A FEW MINS; WE CONTACTED AIRLINE Y AND DISCOVERED THAT HE HAD REQUESTED A CLB FROM FL330 TO FL350 WITH PIARCO AND WAS GIVEN THE CLRNC. PIARCO CTL RECOGNIZED A CONFLICT AND INSTRUCTED HIM TO STOP HIS CLB AT FL340 RATHER THAN INSTRUCTING HIM TO RETURN TO FL330 OR TO EXPEDITE HIS CLB. WE NOTED THE FOLLOWING COORDS AS WE MADE OUR EVASIVE MANEUVER: N15 41.6 W061 11.2. THE WX CONDITIONS WERE CLR SKY WITH UNLIMITED VISIBILITY IN SMOOTH AIR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.