<< >> NASA ASRS Report 756266, September 2007

CL300 flight crew reports TCAS RA with light aircraft during practice approach to fzy in VMC. Traffic was reported by ATC and CL300 flight crew descended 300 feet to avoid the other aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	756266
Time
Date	200709
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : fzy.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl single value : 2000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Canadair/Bombardier Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	arrival : on vectors
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90.tracon
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Amateur (Home) Built
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Person 1
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	756266
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne critical
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

As we were being vectored for the ILS runway 33 at fzy; VFR; approach called out traffic 5 NM to our left that was going to cross our path co-altitude. I was the PIC; but the PNF for this flight. I urged the PF to descend several times; which he finally did; but only by 300 ft. He continued the approach however. He should have descended by 500 ft to avoid the RA or broken off the approach.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CL300 FLT CREW REPORTS TCAS RA WITH LIGHT ACFT DURING PRACTICE APPROACH TO FZY IN VMC. TRAFFIC WAS REPORTED BY ATC AND CL300 FLT CREW DESCENDED 300 FEET TO AVOID THE OTHER ACFT.

Narrative: AS WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 33 AT FZY; VFR; APCH CALLED OUT TFC 5 NM TO OUR L THAT WAS GOING TO CROSS OUR PATH CO-ALT. I WAS THE PIC; BUT THE PNF FOR THIS FLT. I URGED THE PF TO DSND SEVERAL TIMES; WHICH HE FINALLY DID; BUT ONLY BY 300 FT. HE CONTINUED THE APCH HOWEVER. HE SHOULD HAVE DSNDED BY 500 FT TO AVOID THE RA OR BROKEN OFF THE APCH.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.