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Attributes | |
ACN | 764785 |
Time | |
Date | 200712 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude ground : maintenance |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 181 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3450 |
ASRS Report | 764785 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 764786 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : landed in emergency condition flight crew : declared emergency |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Company Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Our flight to ZZZ was dispatched with a reserve fuel of 3.6 and a landing fuel of 7.2. Fuel burn en route was normal. I think we were 300 or 400 pounds under at the last reporting point. While still in center airspace; we were assigned holding at FL380. While in holding we started checking WX for alternate airports and communicating with the dispatcher. We were informed that ZZZ had an emergency aircraft they were working. At that point we selected a divert airport if necessary. Our dispatcher concurred. Later in holding; we asked the dispatcher about traffic down-line between us and ZZZ. He said it looked like 2 other flts were holding ahead of us. After 2 or 3 turns in the holding pattern; we were released. At that point; the WX at ZZZ was clear and visibility was just below 10 mi. If I recall correctly; we left the holding pattern with 7.2 fuel; and the FMS estimated landing with 4.2. Initially; we made good progress. We were asked to increase speed and given a direct point that bypassed several on our route. We continued to check the WX for possible divert fields closer to ZZZ. All were VFR. As we flew the arrival; we were slowed to 250 KTS and descended. The FMS estimated landing fuel slowly decreased. We were given a vector and I declared minimum fuel. We were cleared back on the arrival. At that point we were still estimating to land above 3.6. We were relatively close in on the arrival when ATC began giving vectors and said to expect holding. I declared emergency fuel. Not knowing what was going on at ZZZ at that point; I told ATC we wanted to go to ZZZ1. From our position; there was only 8 mi difference between the two. After a min or two; we were cleared direct ZZZ. We then were given vectors and descent instructions and a runway assignment. As we quickly set up for a new runway and ran the checklists; ATC asked us to expedite the descent. I found out later by calling TRACON that they had a slot on final for us that we were unable to make the descent for. I should have asked them what they were planning for us right away; but we were busy and they did not volunteer that information. That would have saved us a several hundred pounds of fuel. As we flew in the WX was clear. It wasn't until we were in the pattern that I saw that there was just enough haze to prevent visual approachs to runway xx as we looked into the sun. We landed on runway xx. I saw 2.9 on the FMS at landing. Looking back on this event; the problem for me was trying to get a true read on what was going on at ZZZ. From my point of view; the WX was good; and traffic ahead of us seemed normal. What I didn't realize was that there was just enough haze for the runway xx to require instrument approachs. If we had known that the pace of operations at ZZZ was compromised by the visibility we would have diverted early. We also could have communicated better with approach control. If we had known how quick they would get us in; we would have descended more aggressively.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLT CREW IS DISPATCHED WITH ESTIMATED LANDING FUEL OF 7.2K POUNDS. ENROUTE HOLDING AND ARRIVAL DELAYS CAUSE FLT CREW TO DECLARE EMERGENCY FUEL AND LANDING WITH 2.9K POUNDS.
Narrative: OUR FLT TO ZZZ WAS DISPATCHED WITH A RESERVE FUEL OF 3.6 AND A LNDG FUEL OF 7.2. FUEL BURN ENRTE WAS NORMAL. I THINK WE WERE 300 OR 400 LBS UNDER AT THE LAST RPTING POINT. WHILE STILL IN CTR AIRSPACE; WE WERE ASSIGNED HOLDING AT FL380. WHILE IN HOLDING WE STARTED CHKING WX FOR ALTERNATE ARPTS AND COMMUNICATING WITH THE DISPATCHER. WE WERE INFORMED THAT ZZZ HAD AN EMER ACFT THEY WERE WORKING. AT THAT POINT WE SELECTED A DIVERT ARPT IF NECESSARY. OUR DISPATCHER CONCURRED. LATER IN HOLDING; WE ASKED THE DISPATCHER ABOUT TFC DOWN-LINE BTWN US AND ZZZ. HE SAID IT LOOKED LIKE 2 OTHER FLTS WERE HOLDING AHEAD OF US. AFTER 2 OR 3 TURNS IN THE HOLDING PATTERN; WE WERE RELEASED. AT THAT POINT; THE WX AT ZZZ WAS CLR AND VISIBILITY WAS JUST BELOW 10 MI. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY; WE LEFT THE HOLDING PATTERN WITH 7.2 FUEL; AND THE FMS ESTIMATED LNDG WITH 4.2. INITIALLY; WE MADE GOOD PROGRESS. WE WERE ASKED TO INCREASE SPD AND GIVEN A DIRECT POINT THAT BYPASSED SEVERAL ON OUR RTE. WE CONTINUED TO CHK THE WX FOR POSSIBLE DIVERT FIELDS CLOSER TO ZZZ. ALL WERE VFR. AS WE FLEW THE ARR; WE WERE SLOWED TO 250 KTS AND DSNDED. THE FMS ESTIMATED LNDG FUEL SLOWLY DECREASED. WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR AND I DECLARED MINIMUM FUEL. WE WERE CLRED BACK ON THE ARR. AT THAT POINT WE WERE STILL ESTIMATING TO LAND ABOVE 3.6. WE WERE RELATIVELY CLOSE IN ON THE ARR WHEN ATC BEGAN GIVING VECTORS AND SAID TO EXPECT HOLDING. I DECLARED EMER FUEL. NOT KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING ON AT ZZZ AT THAT POINT; I TOLD ATC WE WANTED TO GO TO ZZZ1. FROM OUR POS; THERE WAS ONLY 8 MI DIFFERENCE BTWN THE TWO. AFTER A MIN OR TWO; WE WERE CLRED DIRECT ZZZ. WE THEN WERE GIVEN VECTORS AND DSCNT INSTRUCTIONS AND A RWY ASSIGNMENT. AS WE QUICKLY SET UP FOR A NEW RWY AND RAN THE CHKLISTS; ATC ASKED US TO EXPEDITE THE DSCNT. I FOUND OUT LATER BY CALLING TRACON THAT THEY HAD A SLOT ON FINAL FOR US THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO MAKE THE DSCNT FOR. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THEM WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING FOR US RIGHT AWAY; BUT WE WERE BUSY AND THEY DID NOT VOLUNTEER THAT INFO. THAT WOULD HAVE SAVED US A SEVERAL HUNDRED LBS OF FUEL. AS WE FLEW IN THE WX WAS CLR. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE WERE IN THE PATTERN THAT I SAW THAT THERE WAS JUST ENOUGH HAZE TO PREVENT VISUAL APCHS TO RWY XX AS WE LOOKED INTO THE SUN. WE LANDED ON RWY XX. I SAW 2.9 ON THE FMS AT LNDG. LOOKING BACK ON THIS EVENT; THE PROB FOR ME WAS TRYING TO GET A TRUE READ ON WHAT WAS GOING ON AT ZZZ. FROM MY POINT OF VIEW; THE WX WAS GOOD; AND TFC AHEAD OF US SEEMED NORMAL. WHAT I DIDN'T REALIZE WAS THAT THERE WAS JUST ENOUGH HAZE FOR THE RWY XX TO REQUIRE INST APCHS. IF WE HAD KNOWN THAT THE PACE OF OPS AT ZZZ WAS COMPROMISED BY THE VISIBILITY WE WOULD HAVE DIVERTED EARLY. WE ALSO COULD HAVE COMMUNICATED BETTER WITH APCH CTL. IF WE HAD KNOWN HOW QUICK THEY WOULD GET US IN; WE WOULD HAVE DSNDED MORE AGGRESSIVELY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.