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Attributes | |
ACN | 764931 |
Time | |
Date | 200712 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 28 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 27l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3210 flight time type : 296 |
ASRS Report | 764931 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared for the visual approach to runway 28 into atlanta. The first officer was flying and he armed the approach. He was intercepting the final course about 5 mi outside of the FAF with about a 20 degree intercept angle (we were heading about 300 degrees to intercept) while slowing the airplane. While the first officer had armed the approach; he had a combination of speed and intercept angle that was too great for the autoplt. I stated he needed to start turning. Very shortly thereafter (a few seconds); I realized we were going to overshoot the final course; so I immediately took the flight controls and initiated a 45 degree bank angle turn to the left to return the airplane to the final approach course. As we were in the turn; the TCAS stated 'traffic; traffic' (once) as there was an MD80 on approach to runway 27L. I do not believe we went full scale off to the right of course; but I am not sure as I was hand flying a steep banked turn at the time. Neither ATC nor the other aircraft made any comment; and there was no RA. I returned the controls to the first officer and the rest of the approach was uneventful. Root cause was the inexperience of the first officer with visual approachs. I could have also taken the controls sooner; however; I believe that separation was not compromised and we were in visual conditions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E145 CAPTAIN ASSUMES CONTROL ON ILS INTERCEPT WHEN FO DELAYS ON-COURSE TURN. TCAS TRAFFIC WARNING OCCURS FOR TRAFFIC ON PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 28 INTO ATLANTA. THE FO WAS FLYING AND HE ARMED THE APCH. HE WAS INTERCEPTING THE FINAL COURSE ABOUT 5 MI OUTSIDE OF THE FAF WITH ABOUT A 20 DEG INTERCEPT ANGLE (WE WERE HEADING ABOUT 300 DEGS TO INTERCEPT) WHILE SLOWING THE AIRPLANE. WHILE THE FO HAD ARMED THE APCH; HE HAD A COMBINATION OF SPD AND INTERCEPT ANGLE THAT WAS TOO GREAT FOR THE AUTOPLT. I STATED HE NEEDED TO START TURNING. VERY SHORTLY THEREAFTER (A FEW SECONDS); I REALIZED WE WERE GOING TO OVERSHOOT THE FINAL COURSE; SO I IMMEDIATELY TOOK THE FLT CTLS AND INITIATED A 45 DEG BANK ANGLE TURN TO THE L TO RETURN THE AIRPLANE TO THE FINAL APCH COURSE. AS WE WERE IN THE TURN; THE TCAS STATED 'TFC; TFC' (ONCE) AS THERE WAS AN MD80 ON APCH TO RWY 27L. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE WENT FULL SCALE OFF TO THE R OF COURSE; BUT I AM NOT SURE AS I WAS HAND FLYING A STEEP BANKED TURN AT THE TIME. NEITHER ATC NOR THE OTHER ACFT MADE ANY COMMENT; AND THERE WAS NO RA. I RETURNED THE CTLS TO THE FO AND THE REST OF THE APCH WAS UNEVENTFUL. ROOT CAUSE WAS THE INEXPERIENCE OF THE FO WITH VISUAL APCHS. I COULD HAVE ALSO TAKEN THE CTLS SOONER; HOWEVER; I BELIEVE THAT SEPARATION WAS NOT COMPROMISED AND WE WERE IN VISUAL CONDITIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.