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Attributes | |
ACN | 765788 |
Time | |
Date | 200712 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Rain Snow |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 765788 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight attendant : on duty |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical cabin event other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other Other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | performance deficiency : inspection |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
During climb; the flight attendants called to say that the left engine had experienced loud vibrations and was noisier than normal. Because the engine instruments were normal and WX was very bad at ZZZ1 (snowstorm) and not much better at ZZZ2; which was our takeoff alternate; I elected to continue climb to FL230; leveled there and went back to the cabin to listen to the engine. I commute and often situation near the engines so I know what they sound like. The flight attendants said that the heavy vibration had ceased. I agreed that the engine was noisier than normal; but it was a smooth sound. I called the flight deck and instructed the first officer to obtain clearance for further climb so that I could listen to the engine at climb power. It got no worse so I elected to continue to ZZZ3; where maintenance met the aircraft. A visual inspection from the aft galley door revealed that several compressor blades were damaged. Both engines' intakes had been inspected prior to gate departure since we had to start and taxi to the deicing area. For what it is worth; both engines were placarded in approach idle so we had to run them up to above 60% before taxiing very far. There was snow on the ramp at the location of the run-up; but it was smooth snow; not chunks of contamination. My main concern was to get the run-up completed without sliding. The conditions were really bad to be operating a plane with that placard. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated having both engines placarded in 'approach idle' was somewhat uncommon. He does not know what was the reason for the placarding. But this placard required them to operate the engines above 60 percent. The 'approach idle' system provides rapid engine acceleration capability for use in a 'go around' situation. 'Approach idle' is also maintained after nose gear touchdown for 5-SECONDS to provide rapid engine acceleration capability in case of a miscalculated landing and for reverser operation. Reporter added that trying to taxi in the snow with the higher engine idle made control of the aircraft difficult in the snowy conditions. The higher engine idle operation appears to help assist in a faster response of the 'automatic reserve thrust system (ARTS)' response to a perceived engine failure and is also tied in with the digital flight guidance computer (dfgc) and engine fuel control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING CLIMB; AN MD-80 PILOT INFORMED BY FLT ATTENDANT THAT THE LEFT ENG HAD LOUD VIBRATIONS AND WAS NOISIER THAN NORMAL.
Narrative: DURING CLB; THE FLT ATTENDANTS CALLED TO SAY THAT THE L ENG HAD EXPERIENCED LOUD VIBRATIONS AND WAS NOISIER THAN NORMAL. BECAUSE THE ENG INSTS WERE NORMAL AND WX WAS VERY BAD AT ZZZ1 (SNOWSTORM) AND NOT MUCH BETTER AT ZZZ2; WHICH WAS OUR TKOF ALTERNATE; I ELECTED TO CONTINUE CLB TO FL230; LEVELED THERE AND WENT BACK TO THE CABIN TO LISTEN TO THE ENG. I COMMUTE AND OFTEN SIT NEAR THE ENGS SO I KNOW WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE. THE FLT ATTENDANTS SAID THAT THE HVY VIBRATION HAD CEASED. I AGREED THAT THE ENG WAS NOISIER THAN NORMAL; BUT IT WAS A SMOOTH SOUND. I CALLED THE FLT DECK AND INSTRUCTED THE FO TO OBTAIN CLRNC FOR FURTHER CLB SO THAT I COULD LISTEN TO THE ENG AT CLB PWR. IT GOT NO WORSE SO I ELECTED TO CONTINUE TO ZZZ3; WHERE MAINT MET THE ACFT. A VISUAL INSPECTION FROM THE AFT GALLEY DOOR REVEALED THAT SEVERAL COMPRESSOR BLADES WERE DAMAGED. BOTH ENGS' INTAKES HAD BEEN INSPECTED PRIOR TO GATE DEP SINCE WE HAD TO START AND TAXI TO THE DEICING AREA. FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH; BOTH ENGS WERE PLACARDED IN APCH IDLE SO WE HAD TO RUN THEM UP TO ABOVE 60% BEFORE TAXIING VERY FAR. THERE WAS SNOW ON THE RAMP AT THE LOCATION OF THE RUN-UP; BUT IT WAS SMOOTH SNOW; NOT CHUNKS OF CONTAMINATION. MY MAIN CONCERN WAS TO GET THE RUN-UP COMPLETED WITHOUT SLIDING. THE CONDITIONS WERE REALLY BAD TO BE OPERATING A PLANE WITH THAT PLACARD. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: REPORTER STATED HAVING BOTH ENGINES PLACARDED IN 'APPROACH IDLE' WAS SOMEWHAT UNCOMMON. HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE PLACARDING. BUT THIS PLACARD REQUIRED THEM TO OPERATE THE ENGINES ABOVE 60 PERCENT. THE 'APPROACH IDLE' SYSTEM PROVIDES RAPID ENGINE ACCELERATION CAPABILITY FOR USE IN A 'GO AROUND' SITUATION. 'APPROACH IDLE' IS ALSO MAINTAINED AFTER NOSE GEAR TOUCHDOWN FOR 5-SECONDS TO PROVIDE RAPID ENGINE ACCELERATION CAPABILITY IN CASE OF A MISCALCULATED LANDING AND FOR REVERSER OPERATION. REPORTER ADDED THAT TRYING TO TAXI IN THE SNOW WITH THE HIGHER ENGINE IDLE MADE CONTROL OF THE ACFT DIFFICULT IN THE SNOWY CONDITIONS. THE HIGHER ENGINE IDLE OPERATION APPEARS TO HELP ASSIST IN A FASTER RESPONSE OF THE 'AUTOMATIC RESERVE THRUST SYSTEM (ARTS)' RESPONSE TO A PERCEIVED ENGINE FAILURE AND IS ALSO TIED IN WITH THE DIGITAL FLIGHT GUIDANCE COMPUTER (DFGC) AND ENGINE FUEL CONTROL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.