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Attributes | |
ACN | 770171 |
Time | |
Date | 200801 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc.airport |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon tower : jfk.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Premier 1 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 690 |
ASRS Report | 770171 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 110 |
ASRS Report | 770172 |
Events | |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Chart | sid : wevic |
Narrative:
We took off from runway 17 at slc airport. The clearance was issued for the new WEVIC1.bld SID. Upon line up and hold the tower asked to confirm first waypoint to be hopto. Crew verified in FMS and confirmed with tower. After hand off to departure control at about 10000 ft MSL and PNF checked in with 'altitude leaving; climbing 18000.' departure control corrected the assigned altitude to be 16000 ft (as per RNAV departure procedure) which the crew complied with. Crew was still asked to phone slc TRACON after landing. Supervisor then informed crew that they would not file a deviation; but rather give out 'freebies.' we suggest to change the font on the publication; since number 6 can easily be mistaken for a number 8 (which is exactly what happened). They do use other fonts in other areas of the same procedure.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: captain advised that no altitude is provided in the ATC pre-departure airways clearance. The only indicator of altitudes is their inclusion as restrictions on the SID page. He also advised that on a subsequent departure the 16000 restriction had been modified by NOTAM and that the FAA had people at the slc fbos to brief pilots on the change.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORPORATE FLT CREW MISREADS FINAL ALT ON COMMERCIAL WEVIC RNAV SID AERO CHART FROM SLC. THE '6' IN 'AT OR BELOW 16000 FT' AT GITLIN INTXN LOOKING MORE LIKE AN '8' TO THE CREW.
Narrative: WE TOOK OFF FROM RWY 17 AT SLC ARPT. THE CLRNC WAS ISSUED FOR THE NEW WEVIC1.BLD SID. UPON LINE UP AND HOLD THE TWR ASKED TO CONFIRM FIRST WAYPOINT TO BE HOPTO. CREW VERIFIED IN FMS AND CONFIRMED WITH TOWER. AFTER HAND OFF TO DEP CTL AT ABOUT 10000 FT MSL AND PNF CHKED IN WITH 'ALTITUDE LEAVING; CLBING 18000.' DEP CTL CORRECTED THE ASSIGNED ALTITUDE TO BE 16000 FT (AS PER RNAV DEP PROC) WHICH THE CREW COMPLIED WITH. CREW WAS STILL ASKED TO PHONE SLC TRACON AFTER LNDG. SUPVR THEN INFORMED CREW THAT THEY WOULD NOT FILE A DEV; BUT RATHER GIVE OUT 'FREEBIES.' WE SUGGEST TO CHANGE THE FONT ON THE PUBLICATION; SINCE NUMBER 6 CAN EASILY BE MISTAKEN FOR A NUMBER 8 (WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED). THEY DO USE OTHER FONTS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE SAME PROC.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: CAPTAIN ADVISED THAT NO ALT IS PROVIDED IN THE ATC PRE-DEP AIRWAYS CLRNC. THE ONLY INDICATOR OF ALTS IS THEIR INCLUSION AS RESTRICTIONS ON THE SID PAGE. HE ALSO ADVISED THAT ON A SUBSEQUENT DEP THE 16000 RESTRICTION HAD BEEN MODIFIED BY NOTAM AND THAT THE FAA HAD PEOPLE AT THE SLC FBOS TO BRIEF PLTS ON THE CHANGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.