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Attributes | |
ACN | 778735 |
Time | |
Date | 200803 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mem.airport |
State Reference | TN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mem.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mem.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar controller : non radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 6.5 controller radar : 12.5 controller time certified in position1 : 5.5 |
ASRS Report | 778735 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
An E145 contacted me on the departure west frequency. The route of flight for aircraft X was such that the pilots should have contacted east departure. Later; an A319 contacted the departure west controller. The route of flight for aircraft Y was such that the pilots should have contacted the east departure controller. The FAA says that this happens (aircraft using the wrong frequency for the mem 7 departure) infrequently. I send in these reports to show that it happens multiple times on a daily basis. The FAA has made several changes to controller procedures at mem due to an near midair collision between aircraft that had the wrong frequency; but nothing has been done to address the real problem of pilots not getting the proper frequency from the mem 7 chart. I have made several suggestions in the past. I wish someone would do something.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MEM DEP CTLR DESCRIBED REPEATED EVENTS WHEN DEP ACFT ATTEMPT TO ESTABLISH CONTACT ON THE WRONG DEP FREQ.
Narrative: AN E145 CONTACTED ME ON THE DEP W FREQ. THE RTE OF FLT FOR ACFT X WAS SUCH THAT THE PLTS SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED E DEP. LATER; AN A319 CONTACTED THE DEP W CTLR. THE RTE OF FLT FOR ACFT Y WAS SUCH THAT THE PLTS SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED THE E DEP CTLR. THE FAA SAYS THAT THIS HAPPENS (ACFT USING THE WRONG FREQ FOR THE MEM 7 DEP) INFREQUENTLY. I SEND IN THESE RPTS TO SHOW THAT IT HAPPENS MULTIPLE TIMES ON A DAILY BASIS. THE FAA HAS MADE SEVERAL CHANGES TO CTLR PROCS AT MEM DUE TO AN NMAC BTWN ACFT THAT HAD THE WRONG FREQ; BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO ADDRESS THE REAL PROB OF PLTS NOT GETTING THE PROPER FREQ FROM THE MEM 7 CHART. I HAVE MADE SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS IN THE PAST. I WISH SOMEONE WOULD DO SOMETHING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.