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Attributes | |
ACN | 782872 |
Time | |
Date | 200804 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl single value : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : tralr |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 56 |
ASRS Report | 782872 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was doing the walkaround; captain got the pre departure clearance; and loaded the FMC. The FMC had the TRAILR2. On departure; the controller queried us. We said we were on the TRAILR2. He said we were supposed to be on the staav. He cleared us to foldd on the staav. He said there were no conflicts; traffic problems; cleared us on course; and said no need for any reports. Modified pre departure clearance has both original route and modified route. Suggest having pre departure clearance only have what is the actual clearance on it. I should have verified the pre departure clearance after the walkaround for backup.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLT CREW MISSES THE REVISED SEGMENT ON THEIR PDC AND FLIES THE WRONG SID DEPARTING LAS.
Narrative: I WAS DOING THE WALKAROUND; CAPT GOT THE PDC; AND LOADED THE FMC. THE FMC HAD THE TRAILR2. ON DEP; THE CTLR QUERIED US. WE SAID WE WERE ON THE TRAILR2. HE SAID WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE STAAV. HE CLEARED US TO FOLDD ON THE STAAV. HE SAID THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS; TFC PROBLEMS; CLEARED US ON COURSE; AND SAID NO NEED FOR ANY RPTS. MODIFIED PDC HAS BOTH ORIGINAL RTE AND MODIFIED RTE. SUGGEST HAVING PDC ONLY HAVE WHAT IS THE ACTUAL CLRNC ON IT. I SHOULD HAVE VERIFIED THE PDC AFTER THE WALKAROUND FOR BACKUP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.