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Attributes | |
ACN | 785354 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl single value : 15000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : eldee |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 785354 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 785355 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
Chart | star : eldee |
Narrative:
On eldee arrival to dca. Given new crossing at druzz intersection for 15000 ft. Switched to potomac approach and recleared to descend via eldee arrival. At altitude captain reset altitude alert to 12000 ft for crossing at pugee. STAR called for crossing at revue at 15000 ft. Briefed crossing at revue in approach briefing. Since druzz so close 7.1 NM to revue confused two points and started down to 12000 ft prior to revue. Queried by ATC just prior to revue about our altitude. Noted our error of descending prior to revue crossed revue approximately 800 ft below 15000 ft crossing altitude. No conflict noted on TCAS or by controller. We reviewed NOTAMS prior to descent and with many changes added to confusion on this arrival. Please reissue arrival with proper crossing to reduce chance of errors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 CAPT REPORTS CROSSING THE REVUE WAYPOINT ON THE IAD ELDEE ARR LOW. NOTAM CHANGES ADDED TO CONFUSION ABOUT PROPER CROSSING ALTS.
Narrative: ON ELDEE ARR TO DCA. GIVEN NEW CROSSING AT DRUZZ INTXN FOR 15000 FT. SWITCHED TO POTOMAC APCH AND RECLEARED TO DESCEND VIA ELDEE ARR. AT ALT CAPT RESET ALT ALERT TO 12000 FT FOR CROSSING AT PUGEE. STAR CALLED FOR CROSSING AT REVUE AT 15000 FT. BRIEFED CROSSING AT REVUE IN APPROACH BRIEFING. SINCE DRUZZ SO CLOSE 7.1 NM TO REVUE CONFUSED TWO POINTS AND STARTED DOWN TO 12000 FT PRIOR TO REVUE. QUERIED BY ATC JUST PRIOR TO REVUE ABOUT OUR ALT. NOTED OUR ERROR OF DESCENDING PRIOR TO REVUE CROSSED REVUE APPROX 800 FT BELOW 15000 FT CROSSING ALT. NO CONFLICT NOTED ON TCAS OR BY CONTROLLER. WE REVIEWED NOTAMS PRIOR TO DESCENT AND WITH MANY CHANGES ADDED TO CONFUSION ON THIS ARRIVAL. PLEASE REISSUE ARRIVAL WITH PROPER CROSSING TO REDUCE CHANCE OF ERRORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.