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Attributes | |
ACN | 785554 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : egll.tower |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 3 controller radar : 23 controller time certified in position1 : 10 |
ASRS Report | 785554 |
Events | |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : c90.tracon |
Narrative:
The south area portion of the ZAU/C90 LOA requires the south departure controller to put the south departures under either the newtt or eon airspace boundary. This is required even though the aircraft is assigned an altitude that will keep the departure in C90 airspace. This useless and; in my opinion; frivolous requirement leads to excessive vectors for almost all ord and nsat south departures. In a time where fuel costs have reached record highs; useless and frivolous is costing the user quite a bit of money. From a safety standpoint; when you work departure rushes that require you to vector all over the sky for no real reason; mistakes can be made. Vectors can be forgotten. Aircraft can go NORDO. Any number of things can go wrong. It's one thing to vector because you have to; it's quite another to do so for no reason. Solution: eliminate the requirement to put ord and nsat departures 2.5 mi from the newtt/eon boundary line.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C90 CTLR VOICED CONCERN REGARDING DEP PROCS THAT REQUIRE EXTENSIVE VECTORS; ADDING CONCERN FOR THE COSTS FOR UNNECESSARY VECTORS.
Narrative: THE S AREA PORTION OF THE ZAU/C90 LOA REQUIRES THE S DEP CTLR TO PUT THE S DEPS UNDER EITHER THE NEWTT OR EON AIRSPACE BOUNDARY. THIS IS REQUIRED EVEN THOUGH THE ACFT IS ASSIGNED AN ALT THAT WILL KEEP THE DEP IN C90 AIRSPACE. THIS USELESS AND; IN MY OPINION; FRIVOLOUS REQUIREMENT LEADS TO EXCESSIVE VECTORS FOR ALMOST ALL ORD AND NSAT S DEPS. IN A TIME WHERE FUEL COSTS HAVE REACHED RECORD HIGHS; USELESS AND FRIVOLOUS IS COSTING THE USER QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT; WHEN YOU WORK DEP RUSHES THAT REQUIRE YOU TO VECTOR ALL OVER THE SKY FOR NO REAL REASON; MISTAKES CAN BE MADE. VECTORS CAN BE FORGOTTEN. ACFT CAN GO NORDO. ANY NUMBER OF THINGS CAN GO WRONG. IT'S ONE THING TO VECTOR BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO; IT'S QUITE ANOTHER TO DO SO FOR NO REASON. SOLUTION: ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT TO PUT ORD AND NSAT DEPS 2.5 MI FROM THE NEWTT/EON BOUNDARY LINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.