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Attributes | |
ACN | 793206 |
Time | |
Date | 200807 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : bce.vortac |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl single value : 32000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | departure sid : wevic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 204 |
ASRS Report | 793206 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 195 flight time type : 980 |
ASRS Report | 793205 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
On our first leg of the day; we were filed for a non-standard route. The first officer received the pre departure clearance clearance. I looked over at the pre departure clearance clearance while he was confirming it with our dispatch release. I apparently looked at the second line of the release WEVIC1 bce GRNPA1 instead of the modified release - WEVIC1 ksino GRNDPA1 - above our filed release. The first officer made the same mistake. We reviewed the route in the FMC against our filed route. Salt lake center called us about 7 miles south of urnuw and asked if we were en route to cdc which was on our modified clearance. I replied we were en route to bce our filed clearance. He cleared us to ksino; the modified release clearance. We quickly pulled up the pre departure clearance clearance and discovered our mistake. There were no traffic conflicts and ATC did not report any conflict. Both the first officer and I reviewed our error and how we missed the modified clearance. We have read and understand the modified release is in between the dashes. I will be more diligent while looking at the pre departure clearance. I think it would help myself and other crews if the pre departure clearance clearance did not have the portions of the filed clearance if it has been modified. Having both the filed and modified clrncs sets up a crew to make the same mistake we made. If ATC types in the clearance is it possible to remove that portion of the clearance that is modified? I have definitely learned the pitfalls of reading the pre departure clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW FAILS TO NOTE REVISED PORTION OF PDC CLRNC. TRACK DEV FOLLOWS.
Narrative: ON OUR FIRST LEG OF THE DAY; WE WERE FILED FOR A NON-STD RTE. THE FO RECEIVED THE PDC CLRNC. I LOOKED OVER AT THE PDC CLRNC WHILE HE WAS CONFIRMING IT WITH OUR DISPATCH RELEASE. I APPARENTLY LOOKED AT THE SECOND LINE OF THE RELEASE WEVIC1 BCE GRNPA1 INSTEAD OF THE MODIFIED RELEASE - WEVIC1 KSINO GRNDPA1 - ABOVE OUR FILED RELEASE. THE FO MADE THE SAME MISTAKE. WE REVIEWED THE RTE IN THE FMC AGAINST OUR FILED RTE. SALT LAKE CENTER CALLED US ABOUT 7 MILES SOUTH OF URNUW AND ASKED IF WE WERE ENRTE TO CDC WHICH WAS ON OUR MODIFIED CLRNC. I REPLIED WE WERE ENRTE TO BCE OUR FILED CLRNC. HE CLEARED US TO KSINO; THE MODIFIED RELEASE CLRNC. WE QUICKLY PULLED UP THE PDC CLRNC AND DISCOVERED OUR MISTAKE. THERE WERE NO TFC CONFLICTS AND ATC DID NOT RPT ANY CONFLICT. BOTH THE FO AND I REVIEWED OUR ERROR AND HOW WE MISSED THE MODIFIED CLRNC. WE HAVE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE MODIFIED RELEASE IS IN BETWEEN THE DASHES. I WILL BE MORE DILIGENT WHILE LOOKING AT THE PDC. I THINK IT WOULD HELP MYSELF AND OTHER CREWS IF THE PDC CLRNC DID NOT HAVE THE PORTIONS OF THE FILED CLRNC IF IT HAS BEEN MODIFIED. HAVING BOTH THE FILED AND MODIFIED CLRNCS SETS UP A CREW TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE WE MADE. IF ATC TYPES IN THE CLRNC IS IT POSSIBLE TO REMOVE THAT PORTION OF THE CLRNC THAT IS MODIFIED? I HAVE DEFINITELY LEARNED THE PITFALLS OF READING THE PDC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.