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Attributes | |
ACN | 794697 |
Time | |
Date | 200806 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : lga |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 794697 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Navigational Facility Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Lga clearance delivery issued a clearance to takeoff from lga on runway 31 via the la guardia one departure. The lga VOR was out of service at the time; and was noted on the ATIS. Takeoffs from runway 31 require that either the lga VOR be in service or; that the peths NDB be in service to comply with the single engine departure procedure off runway 31. At the time of the takeoff the peths NDB was notamed out of service. The takeoff and flight were normal. I was notified by the chief pilots office that all aircraft that took off from lga that day off of runway 31 were not in compliance with the navaids required for the single engine departure. I believe that both ATC and the airmen missed the NOTAM because there are so many NOTAMS to read through it is difficult to pick out the things that are truly important to the flight. During an aircraft turn the captain may only have a couple of minutes to read through a lengthy list of NOTAMS if the flight is to remain on schedule. Making NOTAMS easier to read; and if possible; reducing the number printed would help. It is a real challenge to determine the NOTAMS that will impact the flight. I will review with renewed effort for any possible impact on the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT DEPARTS LGA WITH VOR OTS. VOR IS REQUIRED FOR COMPANY ENGINE OUT PROC.
Narrative: LGA CLRNC DELIVERY ISSUED A CLRNC TO TAKEOFF FROM LGA ON RWY 31 VIA THE LA GUARDIA ONE DEP. THE LGA VOR WAS OUT OF SERVICE AT THE TIME; AND WAS NOTED ON THE ATIS. TAKEOFFS FROM RWY 31 REQUIRE THAT EITHER THE LGA VOR BE IN SERVICE OR; THAT THE PETHS NDB BE IN SERVICE TO COMPLY WITH THE SINGLE ENGINE DEP PROC OFF RWY 31. AT THE TIME OF THE TAKEOFF THE PETHS NDB WAS NOTAMED OUT OF SERVICE. THE TAKEOFF AND FLT WERE NORMAL. I WAS NOTIFIED BY THE CHIEF PLTS OFFICE THAT ALL ACFT THAT TOOK OFF FROM LGA THAT DAY OFF OF RWY 31 WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NAVAIDS REQUIRED FOR THE SINGLE ENGINE DEP. I BELIEVE THAT BOTH ATC AND THE AIRMEN MISSED THE NOTAM BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY NOTAMS TO READ THROUGH IT IS DIFFICULT TO PICK OUT THE THINGS THAT ARE TRULY IMPORTANT TO THE FLT. DURING AN ACFT TURN THE CAPT MAY ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO READ THROUGH A LENGTHY LIST OF NOTAMS IF THE FLT IS TO REMAIN ON SCHEDULE. MAKING NOTAMS EASIER TO READ; AND IF POSSIBLE; REDUCING THE NUMBER PRINTED WOULD HELP. IT IS A REAL CHALLENGE TO DETERMINE THE NOTAMS THAT WILL IMPACT THE FLT. I WILL REVIEW WITH RENEWED EFFORT FOR ANY POSSIBLE IMPACT ON THE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.