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Attributes | |
ACN | 810346 |
Time | |
Date | 200810 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : san.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 229 |
ASRS Report | 810346 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Planned arrival fuel at san was 5000 ft with no alternate required. San was 7 mi; 16/14 degrees celsius; calm winds. Approximately 1/2 way to san; dispatch sent an ACARS message saying; 'the fog is coming in off of the water; pedal faster.' if we couldn't land at san we were to go to ont. We got to san and could see most of the airport while on downwind to runway 27. The fog had already started covering the runway. At 8 mi; the tower called touchdown RVR 6000 ft and rollout 1400 ft. At 3 mi; tower called touchdown RVR 1400 ft and rollout 1400 ft. At 1000 ft the runway was no longer visible; so we executed a go around. We had approximately 4800-5000 pounds of fuel. We decided not to try another approach because of the fog situation and got vectors toward ont. We climbed to 11000 ft MSL; contacted the flight attendants; made an announcement to the passenger; ran checklists; got the WX for ont; worked the runway data; contacted ont operations; and coordinated with dispatch through ACARS. Somewhere in there; declaring minimum fuel was overlooked. It was a beautiful day in ont and we had the airport in sight for many miles. Somewhere on short final; it looked like we might land with less than 3000 pounds. Going to san at that time of the morning with the dewpoint spread that close should have raised an eyebrow. But with the WX package; everything else looked good. Calling dispatch to query the lack of an alternate and to discuss the current and arrival time WX would have been very helpful. When we arrived at ont we were told that 7 flts had diverted from san the day prior. That would have been a nice note on the WX package.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FIRST OFFICER REPORTS BEING DISPATCHED TO SAN WITH NO ALTERNATE. FOG ROLLS IN AND FLIGHT DIVERTS TO ONT; LANDING WITH 3000 POUNDS OF FUEL.
Narrative: PLANNED ARR FUEL AT SAN WAS 5000 FT WITH NO ALTERNATE REQUIRED. SAN WAS 7 MI; 16/14 DEGS CELSIUS; CALM WINDS. APPROX 1/2 WAY TO SAN; DISPATCH SENT AN ACARS MESSAGE SAYING; 'THE FOG IS COMING IN OFF OF THE WATER; PEDAL FASTER.' IF WE COULDN'T LAND AT SAN WE WERE TO GO TO ONT. WE GOT TO SAN AND COULD SEE MOST OF THE ARPT WHILE ON DOWNWIND TO RWY 27. THE FOG HAD ALREADY STARTED COVERING THE RWY. AT 8 MI; THE TWR CALLED TOUCHDOWN RVR 6000 FT AND ROLLOUT 1400 FT. AT 3 MI; TWR CALLED TOUCHDOWN RVR 1400 FT AND ROLLOUT 1400 FT. AT 1000 FT THE RWY WAS NO LONGER VISIBLE; SO WE EXECUTED A GAR. WE HAD APPROX 4800-5000 LBS OF FUEL. WE DECIDED NOT TO TRY ANOTHER APCH BECAUSE OF THE FOG SITUATION AND GOT VECTORS TOWARD ONT. WE CLBED TO 11000 FT MSL; CONTACTED THE FLT ATTENDANTS; MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE PAX; RAN CHKLISTS; GOT THE WX FOR ONT; WORKED THE RWY DATA; CONTACTED ONT OPS; AND COORDINATED WITH DISPATCH THROUGH ACARS. SOMEWHERE IN THERE; DECLARING MINIMUM FUEL WAS OVERLOOKED. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN ONT AND WE HAD THE ARPT IN SIGHT FOR MANY MILES. SOMEWHERE ON SHORT FINAL; IT LOOKED LIKE WE MIGHT LAND WITH LESS THAN 3000 LBS. GOING TO SAN AT THAT TIME OF THE MORNING WITH THE DEWPOINT SPREAD THAT CLOSE SHOULD HAVE RAISED AN EYEBROW. BUT WITH THE WX PACKAGE; EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKED GOOD. CALLING DISPATCH TO QUERY THE LACK OF AN ALTERNATE AND TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT AND ARR TIME WX WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL. WHEN WE ARRIVED AT ONT WE WERE TOLD THAT 7 FLTS HAD DIVERTED FROM SAN THE DAY PRIOR. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NICE NOTE ON THE WX PACKAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.