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Attributes | |
ACN | 815199 |
Time | |
Date | 200812 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : maintenance |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 815199 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company FAA Aircraft Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
MEL allows the cockpit door keypad to be MEL'd provided alternate procedures are established. Fom states that the keypad can be MEL'd and that no alternate procedures exist. I don't see how putting that statement in the fom complies with the MEL. The flight attendant manual lists a procedure for them to access the cockpit using the keypad in case of pilot incapacitation.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stressed that his primary reason for submitting the report was the issue of cabin attendant access in the event of a pilot incapacitation. He is concerned that a form of incapacitation that requires the well pilot to restrain the afflicted one from interfering with flight controls; for instance; would result in a situation in which appropriate crew could not access the flight deck. Secondarily; the clearly contradictory nature of the two regulatory documents requires resolution.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 CAPTAIN BELIEVES ACR COMPANY OPERATIONS MANUAL AND A MEL PROCEDURE REGARDING COCKPIT DOOR ACCESS KEYPADS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.
Narrative: MEL ALLOWS THE COCKPIT DOOR KEYPAD TO BE MEL'D PROVIDED ALTERNATE PROCEDURES ARE ESTABLISHED. FOM STATES THAT THE KEYPAD CAN BE MEL'D AND THAT NO ALTERNATE PROCEDURES EXIST. I DON'T SEE HOW PUTTING THAT STATEMENT IN THE FOM COMPLIES WITH THE MEL. THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT MANUAL LISTS A PROCEDURE FOR THEM TO ACCESS THE COCKPIT USING THE KEYPAD IN CASE OF PILOT INCAPACITATION.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: REPORTER STRESSED THAT HIS PRIMARY REASON FOR SUBMITTING THE REPORT WAS THE ISSUE OF CABIN ATTENDANT ACCESS IN THE EVENT OF A PILOT INCAPACITATION. HE IS CONCERNED THAT A FORM OF INCAPACITATION THAT REQUIRES THE WELL PILOT TO RESTRAIN THE AFFLICTED ONE FROM INTERFERING WITH FLIGHT CONTROLS; FOR INSTANCE; WOULD RESULT IN A SITUATION IN WHICH APPROPRIATE CREW COULD NOT ACCESS THE FLIGHT DECK. SECONDARILY; THE CLEARLY CONTRADICTORY NATURE OF THE TWO REGULATORY DOCUMENTS REQUIRES RESOLUTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.