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Attributes | |
ACN | 818483 |
Time | |
Date | 200901 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LFPG.Airport |
State Reference | FO |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 240 Flight Crew Total 5500 Flight Crew Type 1900 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Ground |
Events | |
Anomaly | Ground Event / Encounter Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
During winter operations at lfpg; we were cleared to taxi to the northeast remote deicing pad for deicing. After more than a 30-minute wait; we were cleared in to the pad and switched radio frequencies from ground control to the deicing coordinator. We then configured for deicing. Both engines were kept running at idle per lfpg SOP. Prior to entering the pad; the captain was performing engine run-ups every 15 minutes per the flight manual. While in the pad; it became necessary to perform another run-up. We contacted the deicing coordinator and informed him of our requirement to run the engines up beyond idle and asked if we were clear to do that. The deicing coordinator at first did not understand the request. After at least 2 other transmissions; the coordinator told us he understood and that yes we were cleared to do our engine run-up. The #1 engine was run up first. Immediately after the #2 engine run-up; the coordinator asked us to return our engines to idle. He then asked why we had not remained at idle. We explained that we had asked and he had cleared us to conduct a run-up. He stated that he had not. At some point; our carrier's contract mechanic who supervises the process got on the radio. It became apparent that the coordinator had limited english and although authorizing our request; never fully understood it. We were informed that damage had been done to one of the deicing trucks. Deicing was completed and the remainder of the flight was uneventful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 Relief Pilot reports jet blast damage to deice truck after crew requests and is cleared to run up engines in deice pad to clear fan ice at LFPG.
Narrative: During winter operations at LFPG; we were cleared to taxi to the northeast remote deicing pad for deicing. After more than a 30-minute wait; we were cleared in to the pad and switched radio frequencies from Ground Control to the Deicing Coordinator. We then configured for deicing. Both engines were kept running at idle per LFPG SOP. Prior to entering the pad; the Captain was performing engine run-ups every 15 minutes per the Flight Manual. While in the pad; it became necessary to perform another run-up. We contacted the Deicing Coordinator and informed him of our requirement to run the engines up beyond idle and asked if we were clear to do that. The Deicing Coordinator at first did not understand the request. After at least 2 other transmissions; the Coordinator told us he understood and that yes we were cleared to do our engine run-up. The #1 engine was run up first. Immediately after the #2 engine run-up; the Coordinator asked us to return our engines to idle. He then asked why we had not remained at idle. We explained that we had asked and he had cleared us to conduct a run-up. He stated that he had not. At some point; our carrier's Contract Mechanic who supervises the process got on the radio. It became apparent that the Coordinator had limited English and although authorizing our request; never fully understood it. We were informed that damage had been done to one of the deicing trucks. Deicing was completed and the remainder of the flight was uneventful.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.