<< >> NASA ASRS Report 823798, February 2009

An air carrier crew read the comment on the dfw ILS runway 18R CAT ii/III that states 'when assigned by ATC; intercept glide path at 3000 ft as optional unless mandated to remain at 3000 ft.

Attributes
ACN	823798
Time
Date	200902
Place
Locale Reference	DFW.Airport
State Reference	TX
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Initial Approach
Route In Use	Vectors STAR ICKEL
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Captain Pilot Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP)
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 180 Flight Crew Total 13000 Flight Crew Type 850
Person 2
Function	First Officer Pilot Not Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Commercial
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 225 Flight Crew Total 15200 Flight Crew Type 4700
Events
Anomaly	Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy

Narrative:

Outside of ickel on ILS 18R; approach control told us to turn to 150 degree heading; maintain 4;000 ft till established; cleared ILS 18R approach; switch to tower and report netee. We intercepted localizer outside ickel and remained at 4;000 ft until ickel; then descended to 3;000 ft and intercepted the GS. After getting to 3;000 ft; we noticed the ball note on the chart and questioned its meaning. We landed uneventfully and without question from ATC. After talking with ATC representative from the union and finding out that we were correct in what we did; I would like to see the ball note explained more clearly or know if our procedure was incorrect.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: An air carrier crew read the comment on the DFW ILS Runway 18R CAT II/III that states 'when assigned by ATC; intercept glide path at 3000 FT as optional unless mandated to remain at 3000 FT.

Narrative: Outside of ICKEL on ILS 18R; Approach Control told us to turn to 150 degree heading; maintain 4;000 FT till established; cleared ILS 18R approach; switch to Tower and report NETEE. We intercepted LOC outside ICKEL and remained at 4;000 FT until ICKEL; then descended to 3;000 FT and intercepted the GS. After getting to 3;000 FT; we noticed the ball note on the chart and questioned its meaning. We landed uneventfully and without question from ATC. After talking with ATC representative from the union and finding out that we were correct in what we did; I would like to see the ball note explained more clearly or know if our procedure was incorrect.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.