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Air carrier described minimum fuel event due to weather and a reported less than precise ATC plan regarding vectors and probable delays.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 841000 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200906 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Widebody Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 250 Flight Crew Total 16000 Flight Crew Type 4500 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Fuel Issue Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
Forecast showed chance of thunderstorms in vicinity. Captain and crew decided to increase fuel at takeoff to 24K. We got to a high altitude for crossing FL380 vs FL340. Severe thunderstorms and windshear; we got holding and vectors all over the place. We told ATC we cannot take delay. They had no plan! After again stating we cannot take delay; captain declared minimum fuel. Very poor reaction from ATC. We are east of the airport and are asked to go direct another VOR. We advised ATC we cannot go to that VOR and then to the airport. ATC asks if we are declaring an emergency? We say if you are insisting on sending us to that VOR we will! We finally get a vector to the south and break out in the clear. We landed with 13.5K. If ATC does not have a plan; they need to get one. Next time we will declare an emergency. The tense situation could have been eliminated by ATC having a plan and telling us what it is. They actually told us; I don't know what their plan is. Due to experienced crewmembers and excellent CRM this event did not become a statistic event
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier described minimum fuel event due to weather and a reported less than precise ATC plan regarding vectors and probable delays.
Narrative: Forecast showed chance of thunderstorms in vicinity. Captain and crew decided to increase fuel at takeoff to 24K. We got to a high altitude for crossing FL380 vs FL340. Severe thunderstorms and windshear; we got holding and vectors all over the place. We told ATC we cannot take delay. They had no plan! After again stating we cannot take delay; Captain declared minimum fuel. Very poor reaction from ATC. We are east of the airport and are asked to go direct another VOR. We advised ATC we cannot go to that VOR and then to the airport. ATC asks if we are declaring an Emergency? We say if you are insisting on sending us to that VOR we will! We finally get a vector to the south and break out in the clear. We landed with 13.5K. If ATC does not have a plan; they need to get one. Next time we will declare an emergency. The tense situation could have been eliminated by ATC having a plan and telling us what it is. They actually told us; I don't know what their plan is. Due to experienced crewmembers and excellent CRM this event did not become a statistic event
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.